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@ric5311
Hello Garrett!! Very nice to finally meet you
@lukey8772
Hey it's nice to meet you too! How are you doing today?
@ric5311
I’m doing very well! Had to finish up some work stuff early morning but then I watched a movie and am now just watching big brother feeds
How are you doing?
@lukey8772
I'm good just working at the moment but other than that can't complain
What movie did you see?
@ric5311
I watched something at home, Beautiful Boy with Steve Carrell and Tim Chalamet, it’s from 2018 and about addiction, hard hitting stuff
@lukey8772
oh nice nice
that sounds like it is informative
even if its hard hitting
@ric5311
Hello! Sorry for taking so long to get back to you, i’ve been at disney with my gf and parents all day. I’m happy to be on the same tribe with you!! I fuckin love Tully so i’m happy he drafted me, hopefully this is the start of a long journey for us together
@lukey8772
hey no worries you're good! i hope disney has been fun for you! im also excited to finally be on a tribe with you!
@ric5311
Thank you it was a great day! I’m probably about to head off for the night but it’s been nice being able to rack up all these points
I got a super light day at work tomorrow so I should be able to contribute a lot
@lukey8772
I also have to sleep soon, but thats great glad to hear it
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@ric5311
How was your day? Sorry trying to fit in quick messages when I know bugs aren’t coming lmfao
@lukey8772
it was pretty busy im moving tomorrow morning so a lot has been going on
@ric5311
Good luck with moving tomorrow! We should have a pretty good lead on this challenge, I feel good about our chances. Are you changing states or just moving around locally?
@lukey8772
moving around locally and yeah i think we will be fine hopefully more people can get points overnight
@lukey8772
heya good morning
@ric5311
Hey! Good morning, i’ve had some really good chats with Tully since swapping and he’s said he’s liked playing with you so far. I would love to have something with us 3 if you were into working together
@lukey8772
i was just gonna ask you the same thing great minds think alike
oh i guess tully made it already
@ric5311
Yep lmao I just woke up and saw that 😭 I love it, we were talking a bit last night into this morning about the may day tribal and how it may guide our thoughts moving forward and realized that we have very shared interest in all working together
@lukey8772
yeah i agree tully and i are good so im fine working with yall. i think our interests are aligned and we are all contributing to the challenge
@ric5311
Wonderful, I have been talking to Tully a lot about where the interests of our other tribe members may lie. I thought I had a good relationship with Snubbs but we had some miscommunication during may day so i’m gonna have to poke to see where we’re really at
@lukey8772
oh? what kind of miscommunications? cause snubbs lied to me at the last second and told me they had no clue what was happening.
@ric5311
Snubbs voted Cherrio! 😭 I’m like 99% sure
Which I didn’t mind at all
@lukey8772
wait what??? i was told riley voted cherrio but if it was snubbs that could be kinda bad
@ric5311
dgaf about that vote, but I was the other Carlee vote because he didn’t fuckin tell me that wasn’t the vote even though Dallas was pushing it and Snubbs was acting like he was going along with it 💀
wait what??? i was told riley voted cherrio but if it was snubbs that could be k...
I feel quite confident Riley didn’t vote that round
She told me she didn’t vote
@lukey8772
yknow that is fair then
@ric5311
wait what??? i was told riley voted cherrio but if it was snubbs that could be k...
Yeahhhhh Tully and I were discussing the vote realizing this just a bit earlier and we were like oh shit… we gotta form something and get to work now lmfao
@lukey8772
well im glad yall included me cause i enjoy talking to both of yall
@ric5311
Absolutely!! I feel the same here so I would love for this to be my priority throughout the rest of the game
@lukey8772
hey im glad cause i think we would be a really strong group
do you know what happened at the colin vote? just out of curiosity
@ric5311
Tully had told me that Colin didn’t vote, Tully voted in the minority - everyone else voted for Colin. I didn’t get much else other than that
@lukey8772
yeah thats basically the gist of it
the only thing i can add on my end, is that i was played by francisca and carlee. they had asked me to work with them and then they bought an advantage behind my back and used it to secure numbers without me at colin's vote
if snubbs did also vote for cherrio they would have left me out of that too
even though i did vote cherrio
@ric5311
Snubbs mayyyyy have something pregame with them but I may be reaching. even before Mayday he was talking about Carlee/Francisca as a duo
@lukey8772
it doesnt surprise me
carlee and francisca were like extremely close for almost no reason on peach tribe like they knew everything about each other already
and it made me worried cause they both approached me at the same time for an alliance on peach too it was a giant red flag
@ric5311
Snubbs keeps reinforcing with me that he didn’t vote Cherrio but he knew where the vote was going. So idk i’m spun on it lmao. I’m hoping it’s a pretty inconsequential vote because I genuinely didn’t care who went home
carlee and francisca were like extremely close for almost no reason on peach tri...
I am worried about that though, Tully thought AK might’ve known them too, which would suck for us
@lukey8772
well
i think they do for 2 reasons
ill use this reason first as its in game
the first one is francisca told me herself they are
they apparently bonded over eurovision
and that brings me to the second point
if you look at their tags in this discord they both have esc ❤️
so yeah i dont think its farfetchd to assume theres a pregame at this point
i will say however, i did bond with emp well at the joint tribal too so i think its possible we can be okay
@ric5311
I feel the same with Emp, hopefully we can pull him away if AK/francisca and maybe even Snubbs have something together. Tully and I are also very rich in the animal crossing economy so I genuinely think we could win a 4 v 3 vote if worst case scenario happened
@lukey8772
i definitely see that as a possibility. i think no matter what though, we will be fine there is also a possibility emp doesnt vote to not burn anyone
@lukey8772
Snubbs just approached me as well
@ric5311
I still can’t get a good read on him, he’s tricky
I think he’s got some pregame connections idk about and is trying to play me like i’m his #1
@lukey8772
Told me that he didn't vote, but told someone that cheerio was inactive
Also said that he led the charge to getting cheerio booted by telling someone last round
@ric5311
He’s also saying that to me, which I guess makes sense to tell the truth since there’s an advantage that would just tell us the votes and totally fuck him over if he was lying
Also said that he led the charge to getting cheerio booted by telling someone la...
Okay well this is pretty fair I think this is true
@lukey8772
Which is funny cause Carlee brought cheerio name up
But the reason was that he was inactive
And Carlee was the only one pushing cheerio cause I didn't and Francisca was afk
@ric5311
Snubbs seems to believe Ale was the 4th vote
Which is hilarious cause Ale has been in this server since S1 and definitely knows AK 😭😭😭
@lukey8772
That also lines up with the story Carlee and Francisca said that they thought they had ale
@ric5311
Okay I think we have it figured out then
@lukey8772
I think snubbs shot himself in the foot
Yeah
@ric5311
I have a feeling we’re severely ahead in this challenge since it should be nearly impossible to catch as many bugs as we have so far. But if we do lose I wouldn’t mind losing either Snubbs/Francisca. I’m worried there’s a pregame coalition that’s gonna cook us all if we get to merge with them
If a few get snuffed now, they will scatter
@lukey8772
I agree cause Francisca does not talk to me anymore I'm getting ghosted by her so we need to do something
@ric5311
There is a possibility she’s just been totally afk since swap happened. It’s also been complete silence on my end and Tully + Snubbs have also said they haven’t heard shit from her yet
@lukey8772
I don't think she is cause last night I caught her joining vc and she dipped immediately
I think she is bell hunting
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@lukey8772
Did you see that just now
@ric5311
No what happened?
Oh AK tagging literally everyone but us 😭😭😭
I think we have the tools to win a 3 v 4 vote if we have to
@lukey8772
Yeah even forgot tully
But I agree we have the tools
@ric5311
AK and I have talked about how Tully is on this tribe and we could align the returnees to keep each other safe 😭 so he may not even be forgetting Tully and just simply subliminally saying his alliance LMFAO
Super cringe if they side with Francisca who is barely playing
@lukey8772
I think Francisca is still playing tbh. It's probably to make her the easy vote so they can give her advantages
@ric5311
That would be a crazy strat to intentionally have her not talk to any of us 😭😭 They’re being pretty obvious with who they like though, at least we know and won’t be blindsided
@lukey8772
Yeah Im not gonna lie it's not a good feeling especially with emp cause we had a deep conversation at the joint, but they are over confident so I don't think they would see another move happening
@ric5311
Yep I feel the same way here, it sucks cause I had good chats with AK, Riley, Emp and genuinely thought there was a good chance they were open for business
But i agree on them feeling too confident
Also when shop refreshes tomorrow it should have a golden axe in there for 7,500
which is a steal a vote + extra vote and can’t be blocked
and i’ll be buying that
@lukey8772
Well that's good
@ric5311
so we have majority with me you tully
@lukey8772
I also want you to know I have a shovel but if I get slingshot I can't defend myself
I'm assuming they want me first just cause you said ak might protect yall
My shovel blocks 2 votes
Against myself only
Unfortunately
@ric5311
I think if AK is with those people, they probably will try to take you out over Tully or I
But we will prevent that
@lukey8772
I agree and I'm prepared for that outcome
Just know I'm locked in with you and Tully
@ric5311
I think Tully is close to being able to get a golden shovel too, which can also be blocked but is up to 5 or 6 votes I think
@lukey8772
It's 6
👍 1
@ric5311
Just know I'm locked in with you and Tully
I feel the same way here man, I wanted to work with yall - but now it seems like it’s us 3 vs the world lmfao. I’m happy to ride this out all the way though
@lukey8772
Same it feels good to have allies who have my back this time on peach the girls were just leaving me out left and right
@ric5311
Yeah that’s no fun to deal with, I suppose it’s clear now that they were less willing to work on new relationships considering they knew they had other people on diff tribes they could turn to
I still think we’re winning this first challenge, but if we lose we should def go for any of the 3 that isn’t francisca - you’re very right that they probably expect votes to be on her if they keep playing it this way
@lukey8772
Yeah I mean at this point we just have to assume any of the others are fair game and push Francisca to them
@lukey8772
heya good morning!
@ric5311
Good morning Garrett!! Are you all settled in from the move now?
@lukey8772
yep the move went really well. today we are getting a new washer and then i get to pick up my cat mr. butters!
along with a few errands
hows your day going though?
@ric5311
yep the move went really well. today we are getting a new washer and then i get ...
very nice!! My gf and I are planning on adopting very soon, we moved in to an apartment about 18 months ago and i’ve been feverishly trying to get rid of a cat allergy lmao
hows your day going though?
it’s started off well! Just left for work for the day, should be a pretty light day but I suppose I will find out soon
@lukey8772
oh nice! hopefully that goes well. i have a slight cat allergy but its not as severe as it could be.
hope work treats you well too! what do you do for work?
@ric5311
oh nice! hopefully that goes well. i have a slight cat allergy but its not as se...
I had severely desensitized it with childhood pets growing up, but ever since college I haven’t been around dogs or cats consistently enough so now it’s pretty brutal. I’ve been doing immunotherapy for it for almost a year now so i’m hoping to just wipe the allergy out completely
hope work treats you well too! what do you do for work?
Pharmaceutical sales! I represent for a women’s health drug so I drive around to ob/gyn’s and primary care offices and talk to doctors about the drug I represent for. Very enjoyable job for me as i’m just driving around yapping most of the day. And I get a lot of small bits of downtime in the day to play online survivor lol
@lukey8772
Pharmaceutical sales! I represent for a women’s health drug so I drive around to...
oh wow thats an amazing job! sounds like it would keep you pretty busy throughout the day or busy enough. i always liked jobs where i could just drive around town, however not with these gas prices.
I had severely desensitized it with childhood pets growing up, but ever since co...
im not familiar with immunotherapy, but if it works so yall get a cat im wishing yall the best with that! cats are such great pets. a lot of people are scared of them, or think theyre mean, but they are marshmallows.
@ric5311
okay i’m back from hell
I love my job besides minor inconveniences resulting in entire day logistical nightmares lol
im not familiar with immunotherapy, but if it works so yall get a cat im wishing...
I’m currently taking these lil drops under my tongue every morning that’s filled with like 0.2% cat hair epithelium, so it’s supposed to slowly get rid of the allergy by exposure over time
@lukey8772
oh thats really cool!
i ddint even know anything like that existed
i am allergic to my cat when he licks my hand from time to time i think thats an allergy people can have?
@ric5311
i am allergic to my cat when he licks my hand from time to time i think thats an...
I have heard of that! If you’re allergic to the saliva instead of their hair that can happen. I’m just allergic to the hair which is typically an easier allergy to get rid of, so i’m optimistic
@lukey8772
yeah the saliva is kinda a tougher allergy i feel cause idk any humane ways finding ways to not get an allergic reaction to that
@lukey8772
good morning ricci!
@ric5311
Good morning Garrett!
@lukey8772
how are you doing
@ric5311
I’m doing well now that i feel more confident in how this vote will go. I did wake up sick as fuck which blows but i’m getting through it
@lukey8772
oh dang sorry to hear that
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] have you heard anything else? im a little spooked by what happened in tribal. theyre really close
@ric5311
I’ve been dealing w stuff for my car for the last few hours so I haven’t been seeing what’s been going on, i’ll look now
@lukey8772
oh sorry i was just curious
hope the car is okay
@ric5311
nah you’re totally good, it’s fine they’re just putting me through a bunch of logistical bullshit since it’s a company car
I really don’t like how friendly they all are 😭😭
It’s insane
@lukey8772
yeah
like they dont really include me in their public talks
which thats fine but dont make it obvious
we could still do something but tully would need to be online and tribal time was pushed forward 3 hours cause snubbs ak and possibly emp were complaining
@ric5311
I’m hoping they just wanted tribal time pushed up since theyre all over in Europe and just wanna be awake for tribal
We could in theory flip things with just us
But i’d want to be very confident it’s the right move
@lukey8772
idt it is not without tully
tully literally told me in 1 on 1 he doesn't want to vote francisca and see her in the game again
if anything does get played will you be around to counter it?
asking where tribal was moved up 3 hrs
@ric5311
Yeah i’ll 100% be online, if they try to steal one of our votes or if something gets played on Francisca, I will golden axe and then we both vote AK
@lukey8772
okay so do you want me to keep my vote on francisca for now then
cause ill be at work but i should get a break like an hour or so before tribal
@ric5311
I think so
@lukey8772
alright
@ric5311
I just checked the rules of the axe
If I have to play it, I submit 2 votes right there
But I can’t change an old one
@lukey8772
oh so its like a split vote between fran and ak then
@ric5311
so if we go into it voting Francisca, axe only gives us 2 votes against AK
yeah
@lukey8772
alright we got this then
@ric5311
Keep votes on Fran?
@lukey8772
my shovel will be used as well i already pinged prod. and yes
ill keep my vote on fran
@ric5311
Okay sounds good
@lukey8772
okay i am getting ready to go to work. if im needed for anything just ping me and ill check periodically
@ric5311
Sounds good, we should be all set
@lukey8772
ty ty
@lukey8772
AK is messaging me asking if it's him btw I have no clue why he's so paranoid I told him for the second time that I haven't heard his name
Yes he did this earlier today too
@ric5311
I wonder why he’d be so paranoid about this unless he thinks that you aren’t gonna vote Francisca for some reason
@lukey8772
He said he was just being paranoid but to ask twice is wild
@ric5311
I’m beyond terrified of the idea of being blindsided by these people while holding a golden axe and shovel 😭😭
I’m inclined to believe the vote really is Fran though
@lukey8772
Yeah I hear you
@lukey8772
I think AK might have the idol where he's been paranoid
@ric5311
I wouldn’t be surprised if he had it, he did bring the hunt up with me in a way that I don’t think he would’ve if he knew it was still up for grabs
@lukey8772
He asked me again what's going on
It's not paranoia anymore and Francisca isn't scrambling
@ric5311
That’s so strange
He hasn’t seemed paranoid with me once
@lukey8772
I think they might give Fran the idol or an advantage for sure
I'm just unsure cause emp won't tell me anything about Fran rn
@ric5311
Like won’t confirm that he’s voting for Fran?
If they give her the idol then we will play the axe, i’m not sure it’ll be enough to do anything but it’s all we can do
Idk if we can change our initial votes at this point without Tully
@lukey8772
He won't tell me if she's online
Or talking
I agree though we have a plan
@ric5311
I’m inclined to believe she’s not, I think everyone else has voted
@lukey8772
Alright
I'll trust that
@lukey8772
good morning ricci!
@ric5311
Morning Garrett! God i’m still feeling so relived the plan worked. Would’ve been an all time horrible move if they flipped it on us but i’m so pleased we made it through only using 1/3 advantages
@lukey8772
yeah im glad too but i think they were scared she would strike out. i was talking with tully a bit where you were asleep. basically after i pushed francisca to emp yesterday emp slipped up and was telling me about how tully did horrible in the challenge and that we need to keep an eye on his scores
so i think the apples and snubbs are going to try to push a me vs tully narrative if we lose again
@ric5311
Yeah I have a feeling it’ll be a strong 3 v 3 if we lose again which is why I think i’d rather just win and cut our losses with taking a risk at another Cherry tribal instead of burning our advantages and making enemies on this tribe going through another tribal
@lukey8772
i do agree with that like i will do my best in the challenge. i did find it strange though how the idol hunt appeared right after chris o was voted out so im wondering if there may have been an idol play that tribal
@ric5311
There probably was, it doesn’t make sense that it took that long for a normal idol to be planted
Also just so you know, Snubbs dm’d me and was saying he was confused why you used your shovel
Just so you know that question is out there
I said you may have not felt confident enough that people were actually on Francisca since she could’ve just striked out and then it would’ve been 2 for 1 gone if you were voted for instead
@lukey8772
oh i appreciate that. AK asked me that earlier and basically i said i wanted to be safe than sorry.
i think if we lose though, it works to our advantage. they arent going to suspect i have enough bells for anything else as 4000 + 1000 to vote plus another 1000 bells at the joint. they may feel extra confident
in reality i have about 3k bells still.
which worst case i can buy a flimsy shovel and vote and we can try to save the golden axe and shovel for later
@lukey8772
Hey Ricci how are you doing today
@lukey8772
I'll try to talk more casual stuff when I can btw sorry if it's only been game level so far
@ric5311
Hi Garrett!! No worries at all I feel the same hahaha, I fall into being a game bot very easily but I try my best not to be
It’s my grandpa’s birthday today so we’re headed over to see him and get lunch
Then i’m gonna go watch spider man movie again in a couple hours
What you up to today?
@lukey8772
Alright no worries I know snubbs was just wanting us to build a connection so I said I'd talk to you more
I'm on break at work I gotta go back in a few minutes but it's been a chill day
I get off at 5 est
Also I'm going to request the alliance soon I think I'm just waiting for snubbs to give me the okay
Btw snubbs wants us to talk more before it's requested
@ric5311
Okay just got back from spider man!! Honestly that’s great that his perception is that we barely know each other at all 😭😭 It’ll help hide how genuinely locked in I am with you two. I’ll make sure I tell Snubbs that we talked today to get him feeling more comfortable
@lukey8772
how was the movie?
and thats good because snubbs is not confident in the alliance right now unless he feels we all have equal say and snubbs feels like i wouldnt be as included cause he thinks we arent close
@ric5311
Very good! My gf and I had already seen it once in Dolby on opening night thursday when it came out. but there’s this new theater format called Screen-X that makes the screen goes ultra wide and has extra stuff thrown in on your peripherals. First time seeing a movie in that format and it was a very cool experience
@lukey8772
is it 4-D or 5-D?
@ric5311
and thats good because snubbs is not confident in the alliance right now unless ...
Damn what a good guy, he’s a very equitable ally 😭😭
@lukey8772
cause i heard movie theatres were doing that
ye he is which is nice to see
@ric5311
is it 4-D or 5-D?
I wish we had a 4dx, that’s where they shake you around and spray water at ya
@lukey8772
i know i got to experience a 10 minute 4dx/5d movie once
was an awesome time
@ric5311
screen x is like this, panoramic basically
@lukey8772
O
thats so cool
@ric5311
i know i got to experience a 10 minute 4dx/5d movie once
i’m jealous, I was dying to see Odyssey in 4dx but the closest one is the next state over 😭😭
@lukey8772
oh dang
that probably isnt worth it then
gas is so expensive 😭
@ric5311
one very large perk of my on-the-road sales job is thankfully that my gas is paid for even for personal use
@lukey8772
wait that is so hype
@ric5311
I kept that in mind when I drove 8 hours to see Odyssey in IMAX 70MM 💀
wait that is so hype
it’s insanely nice of them, i’ve saved so much money over the ye ars
@lukey8772
ayy i mean that is incredibly good for a benefit
better than what im going through at my job
my coworker was threatening to no call no show unless i switched shifts with her, so i had to send my manager some texts tonight to be like how do we resolve this
not a very fun time for me
but i think my coworker is getting fed up with the job too
@ric5311
Oh my god that’s insane of her i’m sorry you’re dealing with that
@lukey8772
yeah its fine i think i handled it professionally and kept the peace
@ric5311
Hopefully your boss recognizes that’s so out of pocket from her 😭 But damn, like even if she gets fired for it that’s just a lot of shifts that need to be covered lmao
@lukey8772
the only way im switching shifts is if she covers mine in return so i dont have to close then open
yeah itll be something
@ric5311
the only way im switching shifts is if she covers mine in return so i dont have ...
I always did this at my last job, no way in hell i’m taking a shift unless we’re swapping something to a degree
@lukey8772
right and i think what im going to propose is a fair trade
she gets what she wants i get what i want
@lukey8772
ugh this sucks
@ric5311
It really does, if we won and still managed to have that AK/Emp connection intact we would’ve been in a really good spot. But now we’re gonna have to reveal some things through this vote unfortunately
I’m trying to not get too paranoid but i’m hopeful we will be able to get through this. They probably have an extra vote/steal a vote, and potentially idol/slingshot if I had to guess
I think another vote steal left the shop
@lukey8772
yeah it makes sense. if they have all that then it might be better to make them think the vote is unan
@ric5311
Good morning!
@lukey8772
hey ricci!
@ric5311
Okay I was about to type a whole long message about pros and cons of using everyone as a decoy with AK/Emp but long story short I thought Snubbs was the best decoy anyways so i’m glad he’s volunteering 😭
Maybe this is me being paranoid, but it is slightly odd how quickly he jumped to being the decoy. I feel like i’d only do that if I had even deeper assurances that I won’t be going home
@lukey8772
well emp is asking me how many bells i have
and he thinks im broke
so like
idk
@ric5311
Snubbs dm’d me saying one of us should slingshot them
I’m like ermmmm that’s awkward how do I get away without him knowing Tully and I have both spent most of our bells already 💀
@lukey8772
i cant slingshot either cause they think im broke
@ric5311
well emp is asking me how many bells i have
This lack of subtlety from AK and Emp when it comes to obviously wanting to vote you out is crazy I can’t lie lmao
@lukey8772
well
emp is trying to suss if it makes sense
cause like
im pitching that i cant save myself anyways so just use me lol
@ric5311
I think if they do run with the Snubbs plan, they’ll want to leave me out of it and go with you 3 + Tully if I had to guess
@lukey8772
honestly
i hope they just vote me tbh it'll spook snubbs either way
but i cant really say "yeah just vote garrett" cause that makes no sense
@lukey8772
honestly its crazy
emp might throw a name out but i doubt he will. doesnt seem like his style
@lukey8772
hey when you get a chance to read this, emp told me im not the apples target. i think they wanna make a move here
snubbs and i are talking in the alliance and i think tully mightve gone to sleep
@ric5311
Tully dm’d me before leaving for the night and seemed very unbothered by this vote 😭 He seems to believe we can pull off a 4-2 vote and not have to play anything, which I suppose is still possible
@lukey8772
its gonna get messy
@ric5311
Extremely! I’m gonna need to clarify with hosts, but I still have the pete’s special delivery advantage even after sending the axe back to tully. So if it’s multi-use, I could pass it to whoever their votes end up on if we think we need to idol out of this
@lukey8772
yeah i figured tully went to sleep ugh
but we will get through this somehow
@ric5311
Snubbs just asked me to buy us an advantage for this tribal
I only have 2300 bells so that’s a bit awkward 😭
@lukey8772
i ahve more than you? thats crazy
i have 4300 😭
but everyone thinks im broke af
@ric5311
okay this is tricky but if we want to continue hiding our golden axe and golden shovel from him, maybe you just jump in and say you will buy an extra vote (I don’t think you will actually have to) and then I can tell Snubbs i’m saving my bells for another tribal and we can keep pretending like we don’t have shit
i ahve more than you? thats crazy
I fucked up so bad yesterday lmao, missed like 5 hours of open space
@lukey8772
ohh thats rough for sure
@ric5311
AK wants to know who I think you’re voting for now
I think he’s paranoid
@lukey8772
ak hasnt messaged me but i have no clue what you say to that @Ricci [S1; S2]
maybe just be like, idk he hasnt talked to me in a while
i think ak is scouting to see if you know anything
@ric5311
Yeah I just said we haven’t talked in a while and I too wonder where your head would be at 🤷♂️
@lukey8772
thats good
it sounds like ak and maybe emp are trying figuring out their best option
cause im supposed to reach out to both later with updates
@ric5311
Emp just told me that he expects you to vote for Tully
so he’s also lying to me
@lukey8772
That's crazy
@lukey8772
Gonna info fish emp right now will update if I learn anything
@lukey8772
Anything new for you
@ric5311
AK dm’d me just a bit ago and said that he was scared because it was very quiet. I just said that i’m pretty sure most people are offline now
also
Idk if he’s gonna share this with everyone, but I don’t see why he wouldn’t since he plans to use it rn for our benefit. Regardless just wait for him to tell you so he continues to trust us, But Snubbs bought an extra vote and wants to use it on Emp
@lukey8772
Emp just told me my name was out there btw
Okay that's good to know
I told snubbs that emp told me too
@ric5311
Emp just told me my name was out there btw
Interesting, is he giving you any names of who is saying it? But baseline he’s giving you more info than he’s given me, so I think he may vote me
@lukey8772
No he wouldn't tell me who started it
But that's because it was AK
Also emp noticed something was purchased from the store
So that spooked him a lil
@ric5311
Did he realize it was the extra vote specifically?
@lukey8772
Idk he said he had to double check but was lazy rn
I guess AK also told snubbs he had two idols which snubbs didn't buy for obvious reasons
@ric5311
Yeah Snubbs told me that as well and was freaking out a bit, I told him that was a very AK thing to do and I wouldn’t read into it much 💀
Which I genuinely believe is true
@lukey8772
Well I told snubbs
There's only 1 idol in rotation it was confirmed at start of season by hosts
@ric5311
Does that mean that one was definitely used during the Chris tribal?
@lukey8772
It's very possible which is why they've been trying to win out
Or they flushed it out of Chris o pockets
I'll be back in a bit unless my coworker pisses me off and I need to look at my phone
@ric5311
Sounds good
@lukey8772
Okay I'm here
@ric5311
Welcome back
It is very ominous how little work AK/Emp are putting in
gives me concerns over what they may have
@lukey8772
btw emp is asking me if i bought the advantage in the shop
and yeah i know i genuinely think they feel they are deciding between us going though lol
@ric5311
That’s what it feels like to me as well
@lukey8772
cause technically we did shove them in a middle position in their minds
which is why we are getting wishy washy replies
or at least i am
Idk if he’s gonna share this with everyone, but I don’t see why he wouldn’t sinc...
are you gonna let tully know this too? i worry it will spook tully otherwise
@ric5311
Yeah I don’t see why not, as long as we make sure to tell him not to leak it. I think Snubbs would tell you both since he plans to use it tonight, but I guess in the event he doesn’t use it then yall might know without him being aware lol
@lukey8772
Alright I'll keep it a secret
But yeah this vote should go well
@ric5311
I’m really hoping we yet again sneak by without using an advantage 😭
Snubbs probably a pretty volatile player at merge but I think we should have Dallas & Missouri, them + the tricks up our sleeve would be a good starting point with only 11 people in the game
@lukey8772
i was gonna ask
do you think dallas and snubbs work together at all
@ric5311
I think we would be forcing them to work together which certainly isn’t a long-term resolution lmfao
@lukey8772
cause i do worry this vote if snubbs figures that out he might not work with us here
@ric5311
But I think they’d both do it assuming they’re perceptive of the real enemies at merge
@lukey8772
fair
i do think its smart cause like
snubbs should know i cant work with anyone else plus i wouldnt want to yall are my peeps
i do trust snubbs though dont get me wrong
its just one of those back of mind thoughts
but yeah please keep that here too
@ric5311
I absolutely will don’t worry
@lukey8772
ty ty
@ric5311
I trust Snubbs for now but i’m in the camp that he won’t be loyal to us for very long
@lukey8772
yeah 🙁
i think like he works with us for at least this vote and next depending
@ric5311
3 hour extension…
@lukey8772
who asked for the extension 😭
@ric5311
I’m praying tully
damn fish said he needed to do it
@lukey8772
ughhhh
@ric5311
well at least it should be a better time for tully? I hope. Shitty time for me but oh well
@lukey8772
thats 10 pm here
i think
@ric5311
Yep
11 for me, I should be up but i’ll be tired as shit and probably going to sleep immediately after the vote
so won’t be able to deal with whatever fallout comes
@lukey8772
yeeep
im assuming we will get another small break though
@ric5311
Probably now that tribal is even later. i figured we would’ve been merging tonight immediately after the vote but now I do hope it’s tomorrow instead
@lukey8772
yeah same but a break wouldnt be bad
@lukey8772
do you know if snubbs is still awake
@lukey8772
oh also, i was considering buying a stone axe here. do you think if i did that, it would be wise to use it here or save it for merge?
@ric5311
oh also, i was considering buying a stone axe here. do you think if i did that, ...
I think if AK/Emp pull out a shit ton of advantages tonight it could be safe to use it and make sure we get by. But having a steal a vote come merge would be very nice
I think as long as they don’t idol themselves we should be good to hold on to what we got
@lukey8772
It's a vote block
@ric5311
oh right I mixed that and the other axe
Still good to have considering the other side will likely have more numbers at merge
@lukey8772
I'm just worried that snubbs isn't with us cause ak told me he's not voting and sparing his bells
@ric5311
Oh that’s not great, Snubbs hasn’t said that to any of us
Do you want to tell Snubbs that and see what he says?
Cause last he said to me, he was voting AND using the extra vote he bought
so maybe he’s lying to AK and we just haven’t heard yet
@lukey8772
I just let snubbs know
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@lukey8772
good morning ricci!
@ric5311
Good morning Garrett! Happy merge brother! I knew we were always gonna make it to this point
@lukey8772
same to you man! i sorta had a feeling we would too. although i was a little nervous last night just cause tribal was rushed
@ric5311
The amount of unecessary stress I went through with that tribal being pushed up out of nowhere is insane
I was having such a good time laying down watching jeopardy with my girlfriend
Then BAM
@lukey8772
yeah thats why i was trying to get a 30 minute extension cause i worked, had errands after work and finally got dinner i literally got home and settled 2 minutes before 7 and then i wanted that stone axe
i still cant believe it lets the person vote on revote though
@ric5311
Block a vote that doesn’t carry over to a revote is pretty unheard of 😭
Quite unlucky
I think I may get a vote advantage from the shop today
@lukey8772
it wouldnt hurt
but the nice part is this thing doesnt expire
llike the shovel did
@ric5311
Oh that’s a big plus
I got 3 more rounds on mine
@lukey8772
ahh okay
@ric5311
gonna get pete’s delivery again whenever it hits the shop so that it can basically be a full idol for any of us
But I should be able to get a steal a vote today if i’m timely with my commands
@lukey8772
yeah no worries
@ric5311
Oh wait maybe not after the vote, they didn’t deduct my bells last I checked
Okay well by next tribal regardless
@lukey8772
oh i checked my balance too and they havent subtracted mine either
they were busy yesterday though
im also glad voting isnt 1k bells anymore
@ric5311
I would love to be like AK and get away with not voting at this first merge tribal
save some bells
@lukey8772
i think it might be risky to go for ak but only because he is spiraling that others may see that potential of like an easy beat.
however that spiraling is also gonna make him dangerous if he stays too long
@ric5311
If he spirals out of control he may make himself an easy target, But yeah I don’t think it’s very bright of us to hunt for him next tbh. It’ll guarantee that apples + Carlee vote to save him and come for one of us, they have no real reason to be put off by him bc of this vote
@lukey8772
its a double edge sword like you said. im not gonna like, go after him even after everything over the last tribal. i do think others may scoop him up though.
but we should have 6 at least i would think
@ric5311
I’m hopeful, Snubbs does know multiple people from Cherry so i’m a bit scared he’s gonna flip on us sooner than later
@lukey8772
i mean if he does this vote he throws himself at the bottom of their group
but its definitely possible
cause i was talking to ak and ak was leaking everything i said to snubbs
@ric5311
Did Snubbs say that he was leaking at least? that’s a good sign of trust
@lukey8772
he came to me and asked me what was happening with ak
and then told me what ak was saying
@ric5311
Okay fair enough, he likes to do his investigation lol
Let’s just say at merge he may be quite friendly with Cassandra Riley and Ale
and we wouldn’t have much luck trying to target them
@lukey8772
that really limits our options
to literally ak or carlee
@ric5311
Yep 💀
We can feel out Snubbs a bit now that we’re merged, but he will at the very least be talking to them heavily
And I feel like us pitching any of them would cause him to become severely concerned
@lukey8772
i dont think snubbs would go for any of us though
it would be dallas first
@ric5311
I agree with that
he’d go for dallas or missouri for sure
he may even do that on his own
@lukey8772
like to snubbs we are numbers
even if he doesnt loop us in
i think we should move this conversation to the g-r-t
cause tully trusts snubbs a lot rn
and i agree with what you are saying 100%
@ric5311
I’m down, we can’t have him be too trusting of Snubbs
I think we’re at a good place with him right now though
He’ll stay with us as long as we don’t try to hunt down his friends
@lukey8772
yeah i agree snubbs will stick with us hopefully
how should we bring it up to tully btw
@ric5311
I was thinking about that as well just staring at the alliance chat 😭
@lukey8772
i can start the conversation but idk where to go from there
@ric5311
Like I guess there’s nothing wrong with the information we’re giving him now so I don’t want Tully to feel like i’m telling him not to align with Snubbs
@lukey8772
well i dont think he would assume that
@ric5311
But I want him to know that pitching ale riley or cass to snubbs is a land mine
well i dont think he would assume that
true
@lukey8772
yeah lemme start the conversation
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] do you have a second to chat?
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] do you have a second to chat?
Yes i’m here now!
@lukey8772
okay so there miiiiight be another little issue
@ric5311
doing something for work rn so I may be slow to respond but i’m checking
uh oh
lol
@lukey8772
yeah no worries
i was talking to tully before he went to sleep, just like snubbs wouldnt vote any of the 3 that were mentioned, i dont think tully wants to vote carlee right away. like he would if he had to but i think it would create a rift for sure if she went first.
@ric5311
Oops maybe I should’ve made sure he wouldn’t be put off by me suggesting her before I said that 😭
Snubbs told me he wants to go for AK
@lukey8772
honestly, i think that might be the play if snubbs is being serious
@ric5311
I think he is, he was telling me that apple would likely wanna idol him so we could try to slingshot him if we manage to get the bells for it in time
@lukey8772
so the apples have the idol?
@ric5311
We’re assuming
@lukey8772
ah okay
@ric5311
Neither of us know for sure
But since we haven’t heard about it, it has to be with apples + carlee or somehow dallas/missouri
the latter would be nice
but I doubt it
@lukey8772
so i had another theory that it could've been with emp
@ric5311
(also assuming AK doesn’t have it since he’s so paranoid)
so i had another theory that it could've been with emp
god this would be glorious
he was truly blindsided so maybe
@lukey8772
because AK was so paranoid but knew about the idol hunt
@ric5311
and definitely a candidate for someone who was online at the time and might’ve gotten to it first
@lukey8772
it was also found ye
@ric5311
Okay I can kinda buy that, that would mean another has been hidden though
@lukey8772
thats why i think emp or ak have it
wait
@ric5311
Unless AK still has it and is really lying to protect the secret
but his paranoia is off the charts
i’d be shocked if he had extra protection
@lukey8772
ill look around if nothing pops off lets assume ak has it
@ric5311
Yep, even if he doesn’t have it i’d imagine he’s the top candidate for it to be played on
Something to work around
@lukey8772
which means we would need a second name either way
@ric5311
But Snubbs also wanting to go straight for AK instead of Carlee gives me hope that he isn’t gonna try to steer us away from targeting one of the other apples
cause i’m sure he’s perceptive that if we vote off AK it’ll piss off those same people: cass riley etc
so why not just vote them ya know
@lukey8772
well tbf snubbs is in a really great spot and hes only burnt AK right now
👍 1
but i think snubbs knows if he doesnt side with us
and the apples lie to him and blindside you for example. his game is over
@ric5311
but i think snubbs knows if he doesnt side with us
Bottom of the totem pole for him over there
Yeah exactly
I can send some feelers out after immunity to Snubbs
see how he’d be feeling about one of the other apples
and i’ll lead with those concerns that AK would have the idol or it would be played on him
see how willing he is
@lukey8772
i think AK might be petty and try to send for me again cause the talk i had with ak this morning was really crazy
ak basically said i should've told him it was emp and that i lied to him???
@ric5311
lol
@lukey8772
however idk cause it depends on carlee being okay with that
@ric5311
He ended mine with saying he’d want to mend fences, I can’t imagine he would ever tell me if he’s coming for you again. But I can try to mole my way in there until we blindside him again in like 36 hours 😭
@lukey8772
yeah i didnt get that
which okay whatever
i dont know what i could have said differently like i tried being upfront and he was just playing games
@ric5311
Do you think Carlee will try to jump back to you/Tully at all? Or is she fully locked in with apple at this point
@lukey8772
im gonna talk to her when she gets on
i havent spoken to her
@ric5311
i dont know what i could have said differently like i tried being upfront and he...
yeah nothing you can do there, it did seem like he was trying to guilt trip as much as possible where he could
@lukey8772
but i have to explain the francisca vote to her before the apples do
cause AK is gonna spin that around
@ric5311
Yeah he will try to do anything to spin that at this point i’d guess
I haven’t interacted much with her so maybe i’m off-base. But I think she’d probably consider that she’s on the bottom of that alliance anyways since it’s all Apples
@lukey8772
they saved her if thats true she might stick with them for a vote or two
even though it doesnt make sense its where she ended up. idk why they went for carlee again
like the joint tribal was a clear indicator that it wasnt that simple
@ric5311
yeah Dallas Missouri Chris really fucked that one up 😭
Even today Dallas was saying he was annoyed at them for not doing what they wanted
Literally our entire tribe identified carlee as the swing vote when that tribe was drafted, they cooked themselves lol
@lukey8772
yeah it was crazy
speaking of, i havent heard much from dallas or missouri yet today
idk if theyre just burnt from swap or what
@ric5311
I got a tiny bit from Dallas around 9 am est and that’s all so far
nothing from missouri
@lukey8772
yea thats fair
@ric5311
I must say, this is not out of the usual from original pear
not very active fellas
@lukey8772
ahh okay
@ric5311
Both would disappear for nearly a full day if we won tribal
granted there wasn’t anything happening
@lukey8772
they may not appear until tribal then
@ric5311
challenge* not tribal oops
But yeah I think they may not start to be active until like after 5 pm today
@lukey8772
thats fine then
i did get to talk to riley and cassandra a bit, but like it was just surface level stuff
@ric5311
Lmao I just bombed the challenge as well
I read the thing about the time and then totally ignored it
I’m so good
i did get to talk to riley and cassandra a bit, but like it was just surface lev...
Riley has given me a bit since merging. However she said she loved Emp and is pissed he’s gone lol
@lukey8772
oo that could be interesting if we go to tribal
well i guess its not if we do
@lukey8772
btw
dallas just asked if i was in danger
@ric5311
Good morn
Idk if we can say this so don’t kill me producers if we can’t
but I picked you for challenge
@lukey8772
am i dumb or like i thought i needed to find someone outside the server 😭
@ric5311
oh my god
@lukey8772
i genuinely dont understand this comp but i appreciate it lol
@ric5311
wait I think you’re right
ok no no
in game pairs
one pair will win immunity
@lukey8772
wait what
lemme re read this
@ric5311
I guess they didn’t specify very well 😭😭
I read it again and I could see legit arguments for both options
@lukey8772
lemme ping prod real quick cause im confused
@lukey8772
oh btw @Ricci [S1; S2] i just wanted to update you, but riley is proposing that the apples + carlee and myself work together moving forward. i told her id work with her just to appease her. she might try to throw me utb a bit like she did with dallas, but you dont gotta worry about my loyalty
carlee feels burned by them too like they left her out and told her not to vote ak i guess
so she just didnt vote 🤷♂️
@lukey8772
im also gonna update missouri tully and dallas in the alliance
@ric5311
Perfect, it’ll help lock those two guys in more knowing that they’re still targets for apple so that’s even better
@lukey8772
alright cool
@ric5311
I’m also talking with AK and Riley a bit on the side but I can tell they feel a bit burned by me
AK way more than Riley lol
@lukey8772
yeah and for what its worth
id rather we keep riley than ak just because ak is kind of like snubbs if he rebounds hes gonna come after us
@ric5311
carlee feels burned by them too like they left her out and told her not to vote ...
Carlee feels burned by Apple? Or by Dallas/Missouri?
Oh dallas/missouri
@lukey8772
carlee told me that riley never told her to vote for me and that riley said to not vote ak
so carlee seems to have been left out of everything
of course maybe thats their strategy idk
but someone did not vote last night
but also, ale and cass are a duo that just dont know how to play the game i guess
but they also have not talked to me about the vote
@ric5311
I talked to Ale a little bit after the fact but we didn’t have much to say
@lukey8772
all i got and get from ale
HIIII
how r u today
its the same cycle daily
@ric5311
Lmao that’s too good
I haven’t gotten that but they seemed quite pleased about Snubbs being gone 😭
also I was just doing some thinking in my conf this morning
Ale and AK both used expensive advantages, probably didn’t buy the golden slingshot at the time. Riley had the mayday ticket a few days before slingshot was bought - also not likely to be her
I think it’s Cass
@lukey8772
it definitely could be cass because like
she said in tribal that she had nothing and keeps getting no bells but idt thats true
especially cause like
the bells we get for top 3 in challenges
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] was it riley who started the push on me? or was that who you got information from first?
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] was it riley who started the push on me? or was that who y...
Not sure if she started the push but she was the one who actually broke and told me first
It sounds like she’s the ringleader though so I wouldn’t be surprised if the answer was both
@lukey8772
yeah cause ale just threw ak utb
and said it was ak and snubbs?
@ric5311
Hmmm i talked around and i heard garrett is a potential name but again i have no power here so im not tossing names out or being a master strategist
that’s how AK said it to me
seems like he’s implying it was an apple ally who started it
I wouldn’t be surprised if snubbs started pushing you way earlier than when he told me about it too. He was acting pretty poorly with me like we were making the decision between you or an apple
@lukey8772
idk what to really think then
i sorta think ale was telling me the truth but he would also defend riley over ak
@ric5311
I’m inclined to say Ale is lying and trying to protect that trio they’re in. But regardless of its sincerity I would love to use that to blow up their alliance
@lukey8772
do you think i should tell ak then
@ric5311
The way AK is acting leads me to believe he’s also pissed at apple for being so disorganized and not giving him the info necessary to succeed
do you think i should tell ak then
I think so
@lukey8772
alright
@lukey8772
i spoke with ak. pretty much went about how it would go. he thinks hes gone in a few rounds if not next. he wasnt surprised at all to hear that he was being thrown utb by ale and even admitted he started the push on me 💀 @Ricci [S1; S2]
@ric5311
oh there we go 😭😭
wow these people are still really willing to open up to us after all this it’s crazy
@lukey8772
i thought they werent talking to you?
its good if they are though
@ric5311
no no I mostly meant with what they’re saying to you, I am talking to them but trying to talk game was going nowhere so i’m just having personal conversations and see if I can get something out of them once immunity is resolved
I think AK and Riley are close but if we can get the ale cass riley trio against ak to any degree that would be nice
@lukey8772
yeah i mean theyre only willing to talk to me about the game cause they really dont have numbers right now. if they had numbers id never hear from them
i think we should still go into tribal assuming its 5v5 though
@lukey8772
congrats on immunity 🥳
@ric5311
Thank you brother 🙂↕️ even more cushion for us to make a big move here
@lukey8772
yes indeed
@ric5311
Morning partner
@lukey8772
whats up
@ric5311
Not much, about to head out for work for the day
I’m getting bombarded by Apples now that i’m immune
no names yet but I want them to throw out AK’s name
@lukey8772
theyre asking you for a name? after ghosting you???
thats insane cause like of what riley had pitched to me
@ric5311
Nah they’re not even asking me for a name, just saying they want to talk strategy now and make sure we’re on the same side of the vote
very much code for “hey you were gonna be an option but now that you’re immune i’m gonna try with you to see if there’s anybody you’d vote for that i’d be happy with”
@lukey8772
i think ak is the vote rn
@ric5311
Are there like actual numbers on AK? I heard ale riley cass were throwing him utb but I wasn’t sure if it was gaining any traction
@lukey8772
cause riley told me she wants to work with me you and tully
yes
its looking unan
which i mean could be worrisome
@ric5311
Yeahhhh
@lukey8772
but i think they want their trio to survive more
@ric5311
So that trio has said they’re voting AK then?
I totally missed that
@lukey8772
riley has
@ric5311
Oh okay
@lukey8772
oh someone made an alliance with us
riley did
ok thats huge
@lukey8772
but yeah what are your thoughts on that alliance?
@ric5311
I like it, any moves we can do to force the cracks on that apple side to splinter as wide as possible I think is absolutely brilliant for us
@lukey8772
i agree
i think if we can scoop riley up we have dallas and missouri rn we are the power trio which is insane after last round
@ric5311
Yup exactly
and I don’t see any world in which dallas and missouri ever wake up and are capable of working with that other side
it’s oil and water
@lukey8772
yeah i know
@ric5311
so we always hold that leverage
@lukey8772
i think ak might push for dallas or missouri here too
just because snubbs reacted in tribal to get missouri out
which idk why that was allowed
@ric5311
Is there any way AK can magically find out about apples throwing him utb without making it obvious it came from us?
which idk why that was allowed
I said the same thing lol, very clear jury interference went both ways between ak and snubbs but i dgaf
@lukey8772
i mean tully started the ak push and it is possible they flip things on tully
but right now i think we have to trust the process
as for ak finding out
the only way we could do that is if we threw ale or cass utb
we cant throw riley utb
@ric5311
Cassandra dm’d me and said she feels burned by Ale and Riley distancing themselves from her after the Snubbs vote, she feels like they’re choosing AK over her
granted could just be a lie from Cass
but she’s giving me info
@lukey8772
wait thats weird
riley told me she felt distanced from ale and cass saying they chose ak over her LMAO
@ric5311
Sounds like a coordinated plan if they’re using the same terms
@lukey8772
do you think we should be concerned then
i definitely think at the least they are a trio
but like i dont think they can keep ak cause then the rest of us just dog pile them next vote
they would throw themselves in a minority
@ric5311
Riley also just told me she wants to distance herself from the apples
I’m smelling something
idk what it is yet
Now, this would hinge on AK not being fully in cahoots with them which i’m not sure on quite yet. But, I do think that I have a decent gauge on how AK plays, and if he survives this round and then hears that Ale Riley and Cass were all using tf out of him and not fully informing him about it in order to make a vote happen, he will feel some type of way
@lukey8772
well one thing is
i dont want AK coming after me either
and riley had told tully she was considering dallas here
thats why im like okay is it dallas or missouri getting blindsided then?
i really dont think they go for me again. they would have to burn an idol if they had one.
i do think riley has the idol though so if dallas has a gold slingshot that would be huge.
@ric5311
Yeah I would imagine if they’re planning something it’ll be for one of those two
@lukey8772
well idk if it works on the idol
@ric5311
Probably Dallas
@lukey8772
god could you imagine the jury with dallas and snubbs
@ric5311
LMAO
WW3
@lukey8772
basically
but we can talk it out a bit
i wouldnt mind throwing a few votes on ale or cass
to prevent riley from being sneaky
idk if it would work because if all 4 of them vote together then it would be bad.
yeah we would need to use a shovel on either dallas or missouri
10 voters 4 AK negated 4 apple votes 2 cass/ale
@ric5311
Yeah I feel like Missouri will probably want to play that shovel here regardless too
@lukey8772
is it possible we can manipulate their votes onto dallas? or have dallas buy a shovel
cause we would win the revote
@ric5311
I think it may be too risky to actively push for that
The only subtle way I could think of would be saying how good he is in comps but if that goes back to him then we’re in trouble
@lukey8772
yeah the only way we 100% win this vote in the event they idol is if we have a ladder + stone axe 💀
otherwise we just kinda got to hope for the best
no shovel in store
@ric5311
So is the best bet to convince apple to go for AK then? Or just simply convince Missouri and Dallas to BOTH play something tonight just to be safe?
@lukey8772
its either that
or we just
dont vote ak
and vote ale/cass
which tbh
i dont mind voting ale.
@ric5311
I don’t hate the idea, but we would have to consider telling AK/Riley at that point
@lukey8772
yeah thats the catch
@ric5311
Idk if we can burn them again and get away with it
@lukey8772
but if theyre planning to burn us
@ric5311
then who cares yeah exactly
@lukey8772
its really a 50/50 call here
@ric5311
I would just be concerned that they end up voting like AK, then we look like dicks for lying to them AGAIN when they were actually ready to do what we tell them to
@lukey8772
yeah
@ric5311
But is that worth risking any of y’all’s lives
probably not
@lukey8772
exactly
like
@ric5311
so we need assurances
@lukey8772
i dont know if assurance is going to help us
@ric5311
as in like of our safety, not that certain people are gonna vote a certain way
@lukey8772
i definitely think
missouri needs to shovel here
👍 1
even if he gets 0 votes
cause there is another layer to this
but this has to stay here
riley is trying to make a deal where if AK goes here dallas goes soon.
i guess she brought it up to tully and tully asked me to confirm it with her
so my fear is
riley lied to tully and they'll blindside missouri or myself and then flip dallas
honestly that's why i think theyre going missouri here
i will bring this up with dallas if you think i should
@ric5311
yeah I won’t share this don’t worry, that is very interesting. It makes sense to me, from their POV we were the main ones who pulled that move off
Now, I think if they took out Missouri, Dallas would have 0 care to even talk to them let alone work with
So it could be worth telling him for that reason
But then we’d be giving up our cards that were the main ones branching out to those people
and they’d know they’re severely behind socially
@lukey8772
i dont see it as branching out but yeah that would be tricky
i just want to be sure we arent being played here
@ric5311
Yeah not like we’re flipping on them or anything, but us talking to them more than dallas or missouri are just means they’re more likely to like us more and then target those two
@lukey8772
yeah idk
@ric5311
I feel like we probably are being played by apple
@lukey8772
i agree
i tried to get tully to slow down too
but oh well
@ric5311
He may get too trusting of them especially if this vote goes a certain way and the apples actually do vote AK or something
@lukey8772
idk tbh
im just thinking of this vote and how we dont throw our majority away
cause i think
i need to at least talk to dallas
@ric5311
I think it’s a good idea, at least enough so that he knows it’s possible apple is trying to con us into leaving a blind spot for them to blindside either him or Missouri
@lukey8772
i just cant bring it up in front of tully rn
so it'll be in 1 on 1s
@ric5311
I think that’s fine, probably better for now while we’re still trying to figure out exactly what the plan is
@lukey8772
tully went to bed and voted ak i think
but idk
i may tell dallas that riley is trying to make an apple and peach thing happen. which isnt a lie. but she is excluding carlee for some reason again
@ric5311
Do we have any idea what’s happening with Carlee in this game?
Like AK wants nothing to do with her
neither does Riley
neither does Cass
@lukey8772
yea carlee is on our side now. she just feels really isolated
like she wants to work with us she just doesnt know how to really connect its her first org
@ric5311
like fully on our side? She dm’d me a bit this morning but not much
@lukey8772
yes i think we have carlee 100% with us
she was pissed they voted me last round
@ric5311
Oh wtf 😭😭
@lukey8772
thats why i was saying we could do a 4-4-2 split
but its not worth it unless missouri shovels
and they vote him
wait
i might be cooking here
4-4-2 split
@ric5311
any chance Carlee would also be playing us?
@lukey8772
what if we had dallas missouri me and you vote ale? tully and carlee vote AK and missouri shovels.
no shes not i guarantee that
then if they idol ak we just punish them on revote
like this way tully can keep his word to riley and we can get info from her in the event they were being honest
i think that is our move ricci
@ric5311
That seems like a pretty bullet proof plan as long as Carlee is fully with us
I’ll try to talk to her a bit more today, won’t push any game talk but just chat with her personally and see if she opens up
@lukey8772
thats why we have carlee vote AK
i can let tully know later cause rn carlee does know the vote is AK
she was on earlier
@ric5311
@Everest Hub Bot#0212
right. Sorry, I just got to do voice notes for a little bit. I'm driving somewhere for work. But it's good that she already knows that the vote is AK because I imagine that, I mean, you're saying that you trust her anyways, but I think that if she were to be leaking something, we probably would have heard of it by now. So that's all good. I guess my only follow-up question then would be, do you think, like, if we were to be pitching to Carly that the plan was AK and then we voted for Ale instead and didn't tell Carly about it, would she then feel some type of way about it after the fact? because I mean, who knows? Obviously, you said this is her first org. She doesn't really feel like she has a place right now. So it doesn't really seem like she's that big of a threat or an issue to us moving forwards. But I guess my only concern would just be, is she going to have a vendetta against us coming out of this vote if we have to lie to her and not vote for AK, even though we're working together on this plan? Yeah, that's all.well thats why we loop tully in to what we are doing. since riley and tully were the two that came up with the unan ak plan, then we should tell tully hey we think riley has an idol lets just split votes. where we have pears and me vote for Ale and you and carlee vote AK. i think if we explain it to them that it prevents any of us from going home that this would guarantee we win the vote
i think tully and carlee would be fine with that if it means we all stay here
cause fwiw i would much rather us do this plan where we risk carlee's loyalty then unanimously vote on AK only for like me or dallas to get idoled out.
if we also think it is unanimous on AK then it would be 5-4-1 after everything where 5 votes ak 4 votes ale and 1 vote for whoever ak decides to vote. it prevents a unan idol out too
cause we dont know if riley can pass the idol if she has it without petes delivery service
so we need to play with that angle in mind too
@lukey8772
cause ak isnt even talking or around right now so im assuming he knows he is a target
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] i brought the idea up with missouri and dallas
@ric5311
cause fwiw i would much rather us do this plan where we risk carlee's loyalty th...
I do agree with this, my only concern would be like if we vote AK, he idols somehow - then it’s not 2-2 and they Carlee actually voted for you or Tully to go home and then it’s 3-1
But I take your word on it that she wouldn’t flip, feels like the safest risk
@lukey8772
i trusted you on dallas and missouri i think its only fair if you trust me with carlee
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] i brought the idea up with missouri and dallas
and this is perfect, Missouri dm’d me as well that he wouldn’t mind keeping AK this round if we think that we can splinter AK and the apples a bit further
@lukey8772
alright cool
@ric5311
i trusted you on dallas and missouri i think its only fair if you trust me with ...
I def do
@lukey8772
ty ty
but if this plan works we once again win the vote and everything is good next round too because i feel like apples would either be in a 6v3 minority or tully is at least their mole too if carlee isnt with us. but i know carlee wouldnt backstab us here because she has no one in the game rn
i hope the plan makes sense but im trying to set us up for success rn
@ric5311
I think that makes sense, we just have to convince Dallas and Missouri that it’ll be successful
I do think Missouri is starting to sniff out that he could be their target
So as long as we can get him to buy into Carlee
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] if for some reason Carlee is snaking us we just throw our votes on her and call it a day. Not saying she is but she is kinda in a trap where if the apples leak back she's toast
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] if for some reason Carlee is snaking us we just throw our ...
Yeah that’s true, they haven’t hesitated to throw her utb already - I feel like if she was being tricky and trying to run between the two sides they would’ve tried to blow her up already
So that lends me to trust her more
@lukey8772
Well
I did bring it up to Carlee and she immediately replied
Then I told her my thoughts and it's been radio silent even though she's online periodically. I'm going to give her time Incase she's working but it's like okay then
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] did you buy the ladder?
@ric5311
Nope that wasn’t me, someone else did
@lukey8772
okay if it wasnt dallas then they bought another ladder
@ric5311
I would think it’s probably Riley or Cass who bought it
@lukey8772
yep
@ric5311
It would have to be either Carlee or Riley telling AK his name it out there yeah?
@lukey8772
so
@ric5311
Unless it’s AK just being paranoid again
@lukey8772
riley is messaging me
i think
she knows ak fucked up
lol
@ric5311
Is it clear that they’re still together though?
@lukey8772
yes
riley is saying ak is throwing me utb
so i told riley you got baited, cause ak is claiming the opposite of what she told me
you being riley
@ric5311
yeah
@lukey8772
like these people are messy
@Ricci [S1; S2] we have one out here though
tully has enough for another golden axe incase this vote turns on me or him keep that here for now 💀
@ric5311
LMAO
That’s so funny
I will don’t worry
Well that’s a good failsafe
@lukey8772
yeah
we can fill the other two in eventually
if it comes to that
@ric5311
Yeah we could do it super last minute if necessary
@lukey8772
yes
idk if missouri needs his shovel but it depends on who they go for
@lukey8772
this vote is so messy though
like carlee says shes on board for the idea i had but disappears too much. dallas and missouri want to go for riley even though she could have an idol. and tully wants ak. 💀
@ric5311
It seems like AK thinks it’s him and is threatening people not to vote for him cause he has something😭😭
@lukey8772
what do we do then lol
@ric5311
Also I think we need to hold onto this for now, but Riley just randomly said to me “I think Garrett is leaking what I say to AK”
what do we do then lol
and ummmmm i’m trying to figure that out right now 😭😭
@lukey8772
._.
@ric5311
I don’t want to have to burn another golden axe, especially since it’s not mine
@lukey8772
i literally just told her
i was not talking to ak?
like ME of ALL these people
would leak to ak?
@ric5311
Idk, don’t confront her just yet or anything. it seems like she’s willing to throw AK/others utb for this Dallas plan rn
@lukey8772
okay
im not gonna confront her
im just
at a loss
I don’t want to have to burn another golden axe, especially since it’s not mine
yeah i hear you
i just dont know what we do
if like
they have a ladder
any updates?
@ric5311
Riley seems to be trying to feel out if id flip on Dallas
Which probably means they don’t feel confident enough in their plans with just the ladder alone
@lukey8772
how does this keep happening lol
@ric5311
It is quite comical
@lukey8772
idk but i feel for you being in that position
okay so what do we do
id rather keep dallas obviously
@ric5311
Yeah I ain’t letting him go yet
he’s along for the ride
@lukey8772
tully is probably gonna be a locked vote on ak or ale though i think he has school
@ric5311
Comp beast but that’s fine for now
@lukey8772
so thats our predicament
@ric5311
tully is probably gonna be a locked vote on ak or ale though i think he has scho...
He mentioned right before he left that he should have time to switch to whoever necessary when he gets up, but we’ll see
@lukey8772
yeah
he usually checks in with us
i think then we might have to vote riley?
like it sucks to do so but i dont see how we can keep her if she is trying to play middle
like she said ak with tully now is trying to flip on dallas
@ric5311
Riley said AK is trying to flip on Dallas by using Tully as a vote?
Sorry just want to clarify so i’m not confused 😭
@lukey8772
what
i havent heard that at all
@ric5311
okay then I misinterpreted
like she said ak with tully now is trying to flip on dallas
what did you mean by this
nvm I see
Riley told tully to vote AK
@lukey8772
yee
@ric5311
now is trying to convince me to vote Dallas
I got it
@lukey8772
riley and tully made the ak plan
@ric5311
Riley said Tully pushed AK
So she’s blaming him lol
@lukey8772
that is true cause tully told me he did
okay then ye they might flip on tully
ill tell tully to buy the golden axe i think we gotta cut riley and then keep going from there
idk how we handle carlee in this
but
or i guess
do you wanna keep riley around
@ric5311
I could gaf at this point, I would’ve been more open to it if she wasn’t playing games with us
@lukey8772
cause riley said she was done with pears pitting peaches and apples against each other but now she is pitting peaches and apples against each other
so its like ???
@ric5311
Exactly, she had a plan going into this and then me winning immunity made her pivot I think
Now she wants to use me in her plan
@lukey8772
do you think it was you???
@ric5311
So i’m kinda done with her
I think it could’ve been, probably nowhere near locked or anything
@lukey8772
it makes sense
@ric5311
It sounds like their ideal plan would’ve been to pick you and tully up to flip on me
@lukey8772
LOL that was never happening
@ric5311
Yeah that’s just looping right back to their messiness 😭😭 They’ve tried to stab you B2B and now potentially me, ALL WHILE PITCHING THIS IDEA TO EACH OTHER 💀💀
@lukey8772
yeah
its insanity
okay lets get dallas and missouri on board
i told tully his name is being floated
and that he needs the gold axe here
i guess just tell riley what she wants to hear
@ric5311
Yep, i’m not gonna give her anything legit
Just tell her what she wants and see what info she’ll give up
@lukey8772
sounds good
do you think we should go riley in case of idol or one of the others in her group
@ric5311
I do think she’s more likely to play something at this point. Most vulnerable out of the other 5 people in the game is probably:
AK > Ale > Carlee > Riley > Cass
AK > Ale > Carlee > Riley > Cass
or at least that’s my best guess based on what I think might be out there
@lukey8772
so then we go cassandra?
i dont think theyd use anything on her
or even see it coming cause shes been utr
@ric5311
Yeah she’d probably be the one least expecting it at this point
Probably also someone who wouldn’t do much about it if we blindsided her ally though
@lukey8772
yeah she would just stay where she is at
ok
oh btw @Ricci [S1; S2] how much does dallas and missouri know rn
@ric5311
oh btw @Ricci [S1; S2] how much does dallas and missouri know rn
As far as I know, they mostly just know about AK supposedly pushing this Dallas plan and then getting thrown utb for it. Apparently AK told Dallas that he absolutely did not push his name, and I believe Dallas thinks he’s telling the truth
@lukey8772
ok so dallas probably is mad at riley
do you want me to see if dallas and missouri will vote cass
@ric5311
Yeah if he believes AK, then he probably thinks Riley was the one who came up with it
@lukey8772
alright
@ric5311
What do you believe? I’m indifferent but I kinda buy that AK wouldn’t be coming up with plans right now with how he’s playing
he’s backed into a wall, I feel like this was ale riley and cass’ plan and they aren’t managing AK well
@lukey8772
i dont trust ak
but..
i believe the trio is using him as a puppet
@ric5311
yup my thoughts exactly
@lukey8772
i cant message ak anymore today or riley will flip shit on me
so idk
@ric5311
I could just dead drop it to AK last second
@lukey8772
saying what?
@ric5311
say hey pal that trio is throwing you utb for coming up with this Dallas plan, we’re gonna kill one of the three of them now to save you and then move forward with you
I don’t think we can say a name for fear of idols
@lukey8772
that might be the best strat
@ric5311
But he won’t buy that we’re voting Dallas at this point
So that’s prob best
@lukey8772
also..
ak is a snake so if they idol correctly it might be bad
i really dont know but who does dallas and missouri want out
riley im assuming?
@ric5311
I don’t have it narrowed down exactly yet, but it’s for sure one of ale riley cass or carlee that they want out
Seems like they don’t want AK out yet
@lukey8772
ok
just keep me updated
for my own sanity
im staying out of the tribe drama rn lol
i dont want to be targeted again
btw is tully getting votes?
@ric5311
Not that i’m aware of
But I can try to figure out if he is
@lukey8772
then who is 💀
is it still ak and dallas atm?
@ric5311
I believe the other 5 are most likely to vote Dallas or AK in that order as we stand right now yeah
I told Ale I didn’t wanna kick AK while he was down, which I don’t entirely believe - I moreso just wanted to say something personal and not game related since I DEFINITELY won’t be giving Ale anything 😭 But then Ale acted like it was negative that I wasn’t willing to vote AK
So they at the very least want me to think they’re voting AK
@lukey8772
i think we need to buy the golden axe from the shop 💀
@ric5311
I think so, even if we don’t use it tonight we should have it
@lukey8772
if we dont use it tonight we lose a number
they have the ladder
@ric5311
Right
okay then I guess we’re using it
@lukey8772
i mean its ultimately up to tully
but thats just the truth of the situation
@ric5311
I think he’ll do it asap if he thinks there’s any chance it’s one of you two
@lukey8772
i guess
i told him it was him even if its not
cause i really dont know
@ric5311
Dallas just asked about voting Carlee
I said Cass could be good too 😭
@lukey8772
thats the one name that might make tully not play the axe
tully does not want carlee out
@ric5311
ahhhh
@lukey8772
i personally dont care
@ric5311
Okay well that’ll be enough to sway Dallas away from Carlee
We can get Cass
@lukey8772
well i do agree
with dallas
its the name they wouldnt expect
but tbh we need to start swinging at apples
@ric5311
Especially that trio
@lukey8772
yea
@ric5311
Even if they’re bluffing us, i’m cool w keeping in AK and Riley this round since there is even possible tension there
But Cass is sneaking by and playing so lowkey
@lukey8772
theyre just ignoring me
@ric5311
and definitely has core allies
@lukey8772
yeah ik
@ric5311
Cass reached out to me with a big paragraph today saying a whole lotta nothing
@lukey8772
if you can convince dallas to vote cass that would be nice
LMFAOOOOOO
cass did not tell me shit about last vote
so idrc
do you want me to pitch cass in the 5
idc either way
also keep in mind
i will have to convince tully that carlee isnt with us here. and if she is actually with us he isnt gonna be happy
@ric5311
Ale just threw AK utb the me
@lukey8772
HUH
@ric5311
Said his paranoia is annoying and he’s asked 3 times if Ale is leaking everything AK is saying
@lukey8772
im telling you AK is too paranoid for this game
but riley already dug the line in the sand unfortunately
what do you plan on doing with that info
@ric5311
I don’t think it’s valuable to us unless we used it to bring in AK
@lukey8772
too risky
@ric5311
Cause if we vote Cass, Ale hates us anyways
so that info is only valuable if we tell AK after the vote
@lukey8772
fairs
@ric5311
yeah I would never let AK in on this plan
he’s too damn paranoid
@lukey8772
i know
@ric5311
he’s subjected himself to finding out after the fact
I feel bad, I like him personally
but he’s blowing it
@lukey8772
i hear you
is Dallas okay with voting Cass?
@ric5311
Nothing yet, I prompted the issue that Carlee may not be as viable and that Cass or Ale are probably the best votes - waiting for that response
@lukey8772
alright
im waiting for tully to get on
i think itll be another 2 hrs though
@ric5311
yeah once he does we can advance our thoughts a bit more
We just pray that the axe doesn’t go missing before then 💀
@lukey8772
well
they bought a ladder
so i think theyre all broke lol
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] did riley mean to post that in tribal lol
@ric5311
LMAO
Probably tbh
These people love being vocal in tribe chat about their actual thoughts
@lukey8772
its wild
@ric5311
We know she’s stressed the fuck out 💀
@lukey8772
she wouldnt have been if she didnt play the middle poorly like snubbs
like they gave so much away again
@lukey8772
hmm
@ric5311
Riley is imploding rn
@lukey8772
how so
also if we buy both ladders we could win the vote too
@ric5311
I think i’m just cracking her by asking her what she wants to do
also if we buy both ladders we could win the vote too
I only have 3,200 rn
@lukey8772
yeah i dont have enough either
it would have to be tully buys both
or missouri and dallas buy one or something
but anyways
what is going on with riley
@ric5311
We were just chatting about the whole AK situation with him being paranoid and I asked what her ideal this round would be
and she said that she doesn’t know if she can get AK to get over the paranoia to target Cass or Ale
I’m like… that’s an interesting thing to randomly drop
then she sent that thing in tribal
@lukey8772
what the
@ric5311
and then I asked if anybody was off the table for her tonight
and she said, Ricci I blew up my game, I will do anything tonight to stay alive
So she’s tweaking now 😭
@lukey8772
._.
well whose fault is it for PLAYING THE MIDDLE POORLY 💀
like
these people dont learn
but oh well
so what are you gonna suggest to her
and now ak in tribal
🤦♂️
@ric5311
I don’t think i’m willing to give any names
@lukey8772
ok
thats good
@ric5311
I think they just need to wallow in the fact that their friends did them dirty
@lukey8772
what exactly happened cause like
when tully gets on
hes gonna be p i s s e d
@ric5311
Yeah it’s pretty hard to capture this all in a sentence huh
@lukey8772
like did she just get caught up in saving people
that she didnt see the knife coming?
i literally warned her ak was trouble lmao
@ric5311
Yeah, I think the main headline is that Ale/Cass started throwing AK utb hard due to his severe paranoia. Riley decided she wanted to try and play the middle and caused more chaos by visibly looking untrustworthy to her allies, going as far as saying that she didn’t care who went home from that side. AK learns of said deception and decides that he doesn’t want to play with anyone anymore, but he naturally feels closer to us because he knows that it probably wasn’t us at this point
Do I have that right?
Cause I think the whole Tully/Riley coming up with the AK plan didn’t even affect Cass and Ale at all, they just started talking shit on AK lmao
If anything the convo just made Riley want to play the middle and fuck up her game
@lukey8772
you know tribal is messy when the headline is a paragraph
😭 1
@ric5311
tldr: it’s a mess
@lukey8772
there we go
😂
but yeah i think it looks right
riley got caught playing middle and now everyone is weary of her
but it does bring up an interesting point
if she is this paranoid
does she actually have the idol? is it still hidden?
cause also
they bought a ladder
@ric5311
I legit think it’s still hidden
maybe my ego
but idk
@lukey8772
which means 1. riley is hiding it from everyone
2. its hidden
@ric5311
we would’ve found it and people are so fucking paranoid
Riley is especially super paranoid
@lukey8772
yeah we should try key searching again
cause if we get it on lock thats huge for us
especially with the shovel breaking soon i think?
@ric5311
I’ll get back to searching, I haven’t even tried since that first morning
@lukey8772
same here
@ric5311
Yup my shovel has this tribal and next that’s it
@lukey8772
alright
im telling you this game has been a chaotic roller coaster
@ric5311
and no pete’s advantage in store today so it’s basically already just 1 tribal left
@lukey8772
yeah thats fine though
@ric5311
im telling you this game has been a chaotic roller coaster
quite fun though, I think we’ve been the leaders of most things strategic since swap
@lukey8772
i agree
but its been fun
@ric5311
Missouri confirmed down for Cass or Ale
said he doesn’t gaf who
@lukey8772
alright lets wait for tully cause he made an ale parch i think
he said he made one for ak one for ale
but if he can switch to cass thats better
do you think we should still golden axe to flush their advantages?
since we know one of them has a ladder
@ric5311
probably, better to be safe here
ak and riley are both online and both not responding to me
i’m not convinced we’re fully out of the woods of this all being a ruse yet, but my god it would be complex
@lukey8772
this whole vote has given me a migraine
and ive not been involved in much of it
@Ricci [S1; S2] missouri prefers ale lets just vote him
him being ale
or is it they
im bad at pronouns
ok they use any
@ric5311
any
@lukey8772
ty
@ric5311
I’m cool with doing that the
then*
if it appeases missouri
@lukey8772
ill let tully know if you wanna let dallas know
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@ric5311
doesn’t matter to me, they both carry the same benefit
@lukey8772
it would ye
okay we should be set now we just need tully to either buy 2 ladders or the axe
@lukey8772
ill keep you updated when tully gets on he may want to include carlee idk if thats bad or not
im assuming it is though
@ric5311
I think it is bad
@lukey8772
okay
ill try talking to him
@lukey8772
we miiiight have a problem lmao i think we are going to rocks tonight 💀 someone bought a stone axe. so the vote that is 7v5 is going to become 6v5 then add the ladder it becomes 6v6. if they vote tully i think we just lose this vote. @Ricci [S1; S2]
but on the bright side if they actually are voting dallas then like we should win the revote?
cause then in a revote we gain 1 vote back
@ric5311
Well damn
I just got back
@lukey8772
yeah i mean tbh you havent missed much other than that
we should be fine
@ric5311
Do they know Tully has axe?
@lukey8772
idk cause snubbs sent a reaction message in tribal to a tully blindside comment
then changed it to say bye missouri
so i was like okay thats kinda fucked
but no none of us have leaked tullys axe
idk if missouri or dallas know but theyve been busy
@ric5311
Well Missouri is using shovel so lol nerds if they pick him
@lukey8772
idk i feel like tully is about to get blindsided
@ric5311
Is there anything we can do to guarantee it’s not you or Tully? Can’t let that happen if we have any way of stopping it
@lukey8772
well if its me we win revote
if its tully he goes
like thats the only way we lose tbh
but im not going to put my name out there
and i think people are settled on what they wanna do anyways
@ric5311
yeah can’t put yourself at risk at this point
we’re still on Ale?
@lukey8772
yes
im sticking to that
the others are too
idk if you can let missouri and dallas know about the axe
@ric5311
damn
based on treemail
if that’s what the active player discussions are like
we obvi know who’s saying it
so yeah they’re all against us
Riley says they’re doing Dallas
@lukey8772
okay then we win revote
as long as its not tully their stone axe doesnt work on revote. ik that cause i had one
because it will most likely be 6v6 after block and extra vote are used
but because whoever they block gets to revote it becomes 6v5 in our favor
cause dallas and ale wont revote
@lukey8772
did you let dallas know?
@ric5311
yeah I have
@lukey8772
alright
riley just messaged me
idk what she is doing but eh
@ric5311
Dallas told me that Riley told him it’s him 💀
@lukey8772
im sorry what
😭
like im not misreading that right
@ric5311
Pristine gameplay
nope
@lukey8772
they must feel confident they are gonna win this vote then
maybe be prepared if theres a gold slingshot
@ric5311
Yeah it’s possible
@lukey8772
thats gonna suck for dallas though he just said he got motivation back and then gets stuck with snubbs in jury chat
but hopefully we win the vote
@ric5311
do they know who our votes are on?
@lukey8772
i havent said anything why
@ric5311
I think we can still win if they dont
Nah just asking
I don’t think they do
@lukey8772
alright
riley isnt telling me anything
tbh i hope riley doesnt like switch their vote last minute cause she leaked it lol
just checked the shop nothing else purchased
@lukey8772
any last updates?
@ric5311
Nothing on my end, Riley said she thinks she’s losing the vote and she doesn’t mind
I hope she’s right
@lukey8772
oh?
why does she think that
@ric5311
She said she thinks we have advantages
I said oh cool 💀
@lukey8772
lmao? her side does have some too though?
@ric5311
Yeah it would be pretty dumb of them to not be coordinating what they bought
@lukey8772
true
@ric5311
do you know if tully played axe?
@lukey8772
yes he did
@ric5311
okay good
who’s vote stolen?
@lukey8772
wym
oh the axe
i think riley
@ric5311
lol that’s gonna be funny
@lukey8772
yee he kept it the same
@ric5311
it seems like not everyone is voting this round?
@lukey8772
what
who isnt
@ric5311
They haven’t posted for early tribal
unless prod is just busy
@lukey8772
oh
@ric5311
they do it whenever all votes are in
@lukey8772
i think its that
@ric5311
so they wouldn’t if someone isn’t voting
@lukey8772
fish ahs eben at work
i cant spell
*has been
@ric5311
yeah fair enough
@lukey8772
but yeah i mean
we will see what happens hopefully they dont forget the axe this time
@ric5311
yeah it’s looking like they’re just late, maybe everyone did vote
I hope someone on their side didn’t
@lukey8772
if any of them didnt it would have been carlee
but if they went for dallas its likely she did
@lukey8772
what is going on 💀
@ric5311
I need this to end with a good tribal result or else i’m just gonna be mad 😭😭
I wanna continue laughing
@lukey8772
i dont even know what is happening anymore lol
@ric5311
damn we’re probably in trouble if he’s calling it advantagegeddon
hope we have the edge here
@lukey8772
idk someone bought a ladder at 9:48 i just saw it
@ric5311
2 vote shovel
hmm
not hood
good
@lukey8772
nope
@ric5311
and ladder
okay
well
@lukey8772
wtf
@ric5311
oh my
I think AK may slingshot
oh that was the axe
@lukey8772
idek whats happening
@ric5311
another ladder
so we lose?
@lukey8772
idk why did dallas play it on missouri
@ric5311
wait wtf why did he do that
@lukey8772
idk
@ric5311
oh it’s over
@lukey8772
yeah we lost this one
@ric5311
I think we lose
unless they voted Dallas and this rolls for 5
@lukey8772
yep
@ric5311
wow it rolled 5
please tell me they voted bim
@lukey8772
i think im gone lol
@ric5311
omg only 9 voted
and it’s tully
idk the math but we pray
@lukey8772
idk
@ric5311
it was dallas
tully is gone
@lukey8772
what is going on lol
did you know any of that was happening
like honestly
@ric5311
nope
It sucks
I’m very upset
that’s my dawg
@lukey8772
yeah same
like
im not sure where we go from here
@ric5311
Yeah idk
We got Missouri and Dallas
We need more though
@lukey8772
do we? dallas cant even vote
@ric5311
I guess that’s true
idk what he was thinking
@lukey8772
like we tied if he wasnt stupid no offense
@ric5311
yeah…
He chose personal safety over the vote we needed
sucks
and intercepted
so even worse
@lukey8772
i genuinely dont know what we do
@ric5311
Riley or AK?
Facts are facts and they were still throwing them utb
@lukey8772
i guess
@ric5311
Only other choice is sacrifice Dallas knowing he can’t vote or do anything…
But we’re just backing ourselves into a corner then
@lukey8772
yep
i mean
idk if they go for me next
@ric5311
lol I pinged producers and asked for my immunity bells
looks like dallas can vote now
kinda brutal he didn’t have it before
@lukey8772
yeah i get it
@ric5311
they’re both still unaware of my shovel just so you know, it expires this next tribal so I may keep it super under wraps and buy pete’s advantage and then use it as an idol next tribal however we see fit
@lukey8772
alright
@ric5311
I don’t want to hide it from them but if it’s in the name of us keeping shit under wraps and avoiding a slingshot i’ll do it
@lukey8772
we will probably have to
im ngl to you i understand why those two didnt mention anything to me
but i am livid when my ass was on the line at f11
@ric5311
Yeah it seems like they’re really just out for themselves
I don’t feel entirely comfortable with them, they’re all we have though
I’m riding this shit with you all the way
@lukey8772
ive dumped all my bells into helping us get forward and i know
i appreciate it cause idk what we really do
but i wanted to at least be upfront with you
like im not happy with them
@ric5311
Yeah i’m right there with you
I’m gonna buy a golden axe when it resets in the shop
assuming it will on tribal day
@lukey8772
oh yeah
@ric5311
so that’s 2 extra votes and then can’t block it
@lukey8772
theyll probably assume
its dallas again anyways
who is hiding advantages
just and fyi they can probably take the shovel
with slingshot so maybe wait on the axe
@ric5311
Yeah… they’ll probably slingshot whoever they’re voting for
Golden axe can’t be slingshotted
@lukey8772
true but the shovel can and if it is
we lose next vote too
@ric5311
Yeah
@lukey8772
but ill see what i can find out
cause i doubt they target me where they just took tully out
@ric5311
yeah that’s probably true
@lukey8772
i dunno it wouldnt make much sense imo
@ric5311
I’m guessing me next
@ric5311
last thoughts before I go to sleep, I could possibly get a flimsy item as well to bait the golden slingshot if it’s played
@lukey8772
good morning sorry i went to bed
yeah we can see what happens
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] petes delivery is in stock today btw
@ric5311
good morning sorry i went to bed
good morning no worries
and sounds good, i’ll get that if we need to pass it around
I also may get a flimsy axe + golden axe next round
@lukey8772
well it may not be in stock tomorrow..
@ric5311
play the flimsy axe to draw a slingshot out?
@lukey8772
but yeah i ge tyou
@ric5311
Oh yeah you’re rivht
@lukey8772
i think thats smart
@ric5311
I guess I have to pick today
Ugh
The golden shovel feels useless now that they have another slingshot. They just play it on whoever they are voting for, and then that person is vulnerable
Cause I think if the flimsy axe fails then it isn’t intercepted
So we’re quite cornered here lmfao
@lukey8772
oooh really?
@ric5311
Hosts won’t clarify it either since we don’t own the slingshot
So we’re pretty dominated by them having the EV + Slingshot already
this sucks lol
@lukey8772
ugh thats rough
i do know for what its worth
that i think you would be fine here? im not 100% sure obviously, but
the vibes im getting is that dallas and missouri are kinda public enemies right now?
@ric5311
It does seem that way, i’m just worried they’ll keep them in since they’re the most hated from that side
But I too thought Dallas was the likely target
dudes an immunity beast
@lukey8772
i mean they miiight keep missouri around hes kinda seen as dallas' shadow i guess
but i agree we may be backed into a corner rn
im gonna try talking around with some people today but ill do what i can to keep us here at least
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] sorry to ping but i think we might have a path forward already 💀
@ric5311
I would love to hear it
@lukey8772
i guess cass didnt vote last tribal. she wanted tully to stay. she is claiming to want to work with me and you. the only catch is the entire other side is wanting dallas or missouri out 😭
@ric5311
Wonderful
@lukey8772
shes telling me she feels isolated too
@ric5311
Riley also told me that they’re all very mad at her for leaking the dallas plan
idk if this is all still a ruse
if it is it’s unecessary
so I hope it’s real
@lukey8772
i mean...
from what cass told me
it was always on tully
and she tried to get them to do dallas but they told her no
so i think riley is playing you
it sounds like dallas was just the decoy
to get them to bait out advantages?
@ric5311
yup that makes sense to me
@lukey8772
but it sounds like we have options i just dont know if you would be open to like
voting dallas or missouri but it sounds like its one of them no matter what
so its spooky
@ric5311
I think at the point we’re at in the game right now, the only place where I can be selfish and put my foot and say that i’m really only looking out for you and me
If those two told us about all the advantages they had we could’ve made a way better plan
@lukey8772
yeah and thats how i feel too
@ric5311
You’re the only one I can actually fully operate on a plan with
@lukey8772
i feel like we need to be the duo they are
@ric5311
Yup
@lukey8772
alright i appreciate it ricci
cause i think next vote will get messy if dallas wins but if he doesn't he seems like the easy boot to rebuild trust with
and i think thats what we have to bank on
@ric5311
That’s cool with me to be honest, I can still buy golden axe and bank it for future use
@lukey8772
yeah i think that would help
idk if the shovel will really do much from this position as we talked about
@ric5311
Yeah… if the vote is me and I play it on myself - then they just get to negate 6 votes instead of us
If Pete’s advantage showed up one day earlier we would’ve had something
granted I thought it would’ve been you over tully, so I probably would’ve missed
@lukey8772
yeah i mean i thought it was me too
oh btw do you know if pete's advantage can send bells over?
@ric5311
yes bells or items can be sent
@lukey8772
ok wait it can. if you ever have extra bells you might wanna send me some i have enough to vote at this tribal but i got wasped for the third day in a row
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@ric5311
250 deposit + whatever you send
@lukey8772
my luck has been abysmal
@ric5311
Sounds good, I’m gonna get axe and obvi my vote for next tribal, but I should have enough to give you after that by the time tribal comes around
@lukey8772
yeah thats fair if not no worries but i appreciate it
@ric5311
I’m at like 6,636 bells for me rn
nah no worries ill def be able to
I have a good system now
@lukey8772
i have ~900
@ric5311
3 rocks a day then bottle before night
@lukey8772
they didnt take my bells yet
@ric5311
oh damn
@lukey8772
ooo thats huge
yeah
@ric5311
oh shit they might’ve not taken mine yet
fuck
@lukey8772
oo
that could be bad then
lemme ask in subs
thankfully if we get to f7 the cost to vote is manageable
but like we gotta get there lol
@ric5311
i think AK is a complete non starter
he’s been holding resentment all this time
just had a fight with him
he pissed me the fuck off
@lukey8772
what happened???
@ric5311
I asked if the whole apples throwing him under the bus thing was legit or all a part of their plan
then asked something along the lines of like if he was upset by it
response; Not really, if they wanna boot me so be it LMAOOOO puts me out of my stress from this season
then continued to say that we gave him a headache over the last few rounds so anything is better than that
go fuck yourself
@lukey8772
huhh
i did talk with AK a bit this morning and i didnt wanna like bring it up incase this happened
but he said he and riley are both burned by you a lot
which explains riley's actions too
@ric5311
Riley can especially go fuck herself
didn’t do anything to burn her
@lukey8772
yeah i know
i think just chill for now. i know its frustrating but im really trying to keep the target on dallas rn
i dont know how else we can get out of this
@ric5311
Yeah… I should chill lol
I will sink my game
@lukey8772
i definitely get the frustration though
like i will be honest i feel like im kinda just being sheeped through and that parchment last night pissed me off really bad the sheep parchment. but if i react to that then like, im gonna get kicked off next
so the only thing i can do is just bide my time and wait. we're in the same spot where we kinda just have to wait things out
@ric5311
Yeah I was a bit confused by that, are they calling you 4 sheep and saying i’m controlling it?
I wondered why I was left out
i’m pretty sure that was Ale though
@lukey8772
it was ale cause carlee isnt that mean like carlee literally messaged me after the vote and was like "omg please dont be mad"
@ric5311
Yeah I just knew she couldn’t be with us
She was so weird with me
But that didn’t matter anyways
Ale needs to die for that
@lukey8772
like i said at f11 i believe the power trio is riley-ale-carlee cass and ak are on the outs of that..
which is why they protected ale im guessing
knowing that i think our play is to either try to scoop cass up here and see if she wants to be our tully. but if not, we have to make sure its dallas. cause im starting to get a better idea of their dynamics.
carlee-ale-riley-ak vs me you dallas and missouri. it puts cass in the middle to make a move if she wants. but if she would rather wait a round then we would need cass and ak to do something.
carlee-ale-riley-ak vs me you dallas and missouri. it puts cass in the middle to make a move if she wants. but if she would rather wait a round then we would need cass and ak to do something.
cause idk if carlee wants to flip on her power trio at all
@ric5311
Cass just approached me about this trio with you as well
so she’s activated
@lukey8772
yeah we have been talking a bit
i did let her know id be willing to cut dallas or missouri here
so you know
@ric5311
Perfectly fine with me
Of all people, no way in hell they’re running shit back to those two
We can pretty safely throw them utb to save ourselves I think lol
@lukey8772
well i did also mention
it was their idea to stonewall the apples
but im doing that to protect us
@ric5311
yeah that’s totally fine
are they stonewalling them?
That would be hilarious
i’ve talked to all of them
@lukey8772
idk if they will
@ric5311
granted fought with AK and almost fought with Riley
but i’m talking lol
@lukey8772
but the fact that they said it is not a good look
i would say try to recover with ak if you can
we are gonna need him at some point
@ric5311
Yeah we ended on a good note
@lukey8772
alright cool
@ric5311
Just lots of emotions, I think we both get it though. game is game
@lukey8772
yep
i had a really good chat with ak today
so i dont think this is over for us yet
@ric5311
He told me he was in no mindset to talk game 💀💀
But I think that’s a me problem
@lukey8772
something mustve happened after i talked to him then
cause we spoke when i first woke up
@ric5311
Well u got ur little pear + garrett group
this was at 9:25
“Sounds like thats working for yew”
then we yelled lol
@lukey8772
yeah ak and i spoke way before that
@lukey8772
okay this is my thoughts lemme know when you have a chance but i think im cooking again
riley-ale-carlee are a trio. riley pushed tully and told dallas his name was out there. i wouldnt be surprised if riley isnt going to try to flip dallas and missouri and target you. i dont think carlee will go for me. i think we have two options here. we either work with dallas and missouri for 1 more vote with cass and ak and form our own 5 so the power trio doesnt keep gaining control of the game.
i think we need to get riley or carlee out next. dallas and missouri wont be opposed to a carlee vote. so thats 4. i will talk with cass and ak later and be like hey you both told me that yall were outliers do yall wanna strike a deal where we would have a this for that deal.
i think we need to get riley or carlee out next. dallas and missouri wont be opposed to a carlee vote. so thats 4. i will talk with cass and ak later and be like hey you both told me that yall were outliers do yall wanna strike a deal where we would have a this for that deal.
the other option is we trust riley ale and carlee
which yeah
not a good idea
@Ricci [S1; S2]
@ric5311
If we can convince AK and Cass to flip i’m very much down for that
I think they may try to force a dallas or missouri vote
But hopefully not
@lukey8772
well
cass might
ak told me he isnt close to carlee
and feels she is distant
@ric5311
See, I buy the argument that Cass would want to change the game up to prevent it from being stagnant and just steamrolling us - but I don’t think I can trust what they’ve been saying about not being close or throwing each other under the bus anymore
Cause maybe not all of it, but at least some of that was a coordinated effort to confuse us
So they didn’t mind each other throwing their names out and saying they don’t talk to each other
But Cass and AK made interesting pitches to me that I can believe
@lukey8772
well rn we have to like trust ak and cass
if it lands on dallas its whatever but like, i think this prevents riley ale and carlee from steamrolling us
@ric5311
well rn we have to like trust ak and cass
yeah those are the two people i’m most willing to trust right now from that side
@lukey8772
okay lemme see what i can do. i did also talk to dallas who im sure will talk to missouri
but i think we dont divide and we try to flip cass and ak now
@ric5311
good with me
@lukey8772
cause i was brainstorming and i was like
oh shit they could 5-4 the vote
and there is no unanimous votes this season im convinced of that lol
@ric5311
Cass is the only one who hasn’t played an advantage from that side right?
So she def has either the extra vote or slingshot
that’s how we know if she’s telling the truth
@lukey8772
yep
@ric5311
She needs to tell us or else we can prob assume it’s a trick again
@lukey8772
thats fair
honestly i think she has the ladder
i dont know who bought the slingshot
ill also be updating our fuck snubbs alliance with what we talked about later
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@ric5311
Ale played extra vote and shovel, AK did a block a vote after using a golden rod last round, Riley played golden slingshot and had may day ticket earlier in the game, we know Dallas and Missouri are broke, and we know we haven’t bought anything
So Carlee and Cass have those two advantages
@lukey8772
carlee bought a ladder
WAIT
@ric5311
sounds good, I take it we aren’t telling them they’re an option?
@lukey8772
can we assume cass has the slingshot
and carlee has the ladder
@ric5311
If you know for sure Carlee got the ladder then yes it means Cass has slingshot guaranteed
@lukey8772
i dont
@ric5311
Oh okay
@lukey8772
but carlee played a ladder at tullys vote
@ric5311
we know for a fact that they have those 2 advantages
@lukey8772
yep
thats good at least
@ric5311
i’m inclined to believe cass has slingshot since she hasn’t played anything and would have the most bells
@lukey8772
i agree
@ric5311
So Cass is trying to reach out to us to figure out who to slingshot?
@lukey8772
idk
i believe cass might be with us
she told me she wants to make a move at some point
@ric5311
Hopefully she tells us about it
we can just ask lol
@lukey8772
ye i mean at this point
its obvious
@ric5311
Hey queen do you have the golden slingshot 😊😊😊
@lukey8772
yep 😂
@ric5311
I think she’d crack
@lukey8772
she would have to
no one else has the bells after that last vote
@ric5311
Let’s wait until after immunity and we can see if it’s still worth it to drop that on her
@lukey8772
yeah for sure
im gonna update dallas and missouri now
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cause ill be busy soon
@ric5311
sounds good
@ric5311
Riley brought up the slingshot being missing so I asked her who had it
she typed for 10 minutes and then spit out: idk actually but i would guess the people who played stuff that last round are now broke lmfao
so she knows who has it
@lukey8772
Lol
I would say Carlee has it then
@ric5311
I’m going to be promptly sat on my phone at 11:59 pm tonight to get this golden axe when shop resets
Can’t be slingshotted so we have 2 extra votes no matter what
and they have one less
@lukey8772
Alright I appreciate it
@lukey8772
If you have enough for Pete's delivery I would get one of those too. I think there have been some talks of you having bells
@ric5311
Yeah I figured as much since i’m one of the only ones who hasn’t played something
I have a feeling votes are coming for me next
I think my only option is to buy a flimsy item along with the golden axe and play that first to flush a slingshot
cause even if I get pete’s, all I could do with it is just give you my bells if they’re coming for me and slingshotting me, shovel expires this tribal so it won’t be useful to you after this round
@lukey8772
Oh right cause axe can't be blocked
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@ric5311
do you know who’s saying it?
about me having bells
@lukey8772
I think it was AK and Riley but I'd have to double check
@ric5311
oh good
they’re both ghosting me
@lukey8772
are they? what did you say?
@ric5311
last thing I said to Riley was that I won’t leak that she just told me she bought a vaulting pole yesterday
haven’t gotten a response to that
@lukey8772
oh lol
@ric5311
AK way earlier this morning said he was too tired to talk and he’ll try later
@lukey8772
im just
at the point where like
i really dont understand any of these people or their games
cause ill be honest, if riley and ak are beefing with you why are they sharing their advantages still
@ric5311
I have no idea, I guess Riley doesn’t care about the vaulting pole info because it has nothing to do with the vote
@lukey8772
i mean
thats still dumb
"oh i have a challenge booster but please its not that serious"
anyways idk if dallas liked the idea of trying to flip someone
like i dont know if people realize but this game isnt a final 5 ftc 💀
@ric5311
yeah idk what they expect us to do at this point, they got the advantages so we need the people
@lukey8772
yeah cause even if we advantage them they do it right back and we probably get picked off after
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] i just dumped everything out to AK about how we need him this vote. he told me he wants to make a move. he also told me cass might be playing in our faces. so just be careful with cass until i find out more
i was also told they are 100% going for dallas if he isnt immune. ak seems really open to working with us just keep that between us please
also ak is gonna want to talk to you so you are gonna have to act surprised
like dont let him know i told you these things either 😭
@ric5311
like dont let him know i told you these things either 😭
I’m totally good with doing that no worries
@Ricci [S1; S2] i just dumped everything out to AK about how we need him t...
I think AK is telling the truth here
He feels less burned by you than me so that makes sense he’d go to you with it
I’ll wait and see what he says to me
@lukey8772
He is we literally just had a deep conversation about the game
@ric5311
well that’s good
i was also told they are 100% going for dallas if he isnt immune. ak seems reall...
I’m concerned he’s lying again just since he’s been talking about how I likely have an advantage. But we’ll find out depending on whether or not he reaches out to me with this
I told him ball is in his court this morning
But I have way less faith in Cassandra at this point as well
@lukey8772
Yeah I think we have to trust ak
@lukey8772
But yeah I'll keep you updated
@ric5311
Sounds good, i’ve been ghosted by mostly everyone today so im just chilling and taking the day off for the most part
@ric5311
stone axe bought now as well
it’s an all out assault lmfao
@lukey8772
who bought the stone axe????
@Ricci [S1; S2] do you have enough for petes delivery and a golden axe?
i think our play is to get that axe hopefully and then i play it at tribal.
cause otherwise we could lose outright lose to advantages
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] do you have enough for petes delivery and a golden axe?
just golden axe right now, but I think pete’s is still useless unless you just want my leftover bells
@lukey8772
oh i keep forgetting
yeah i would just get the axe then like thats our best bet atp
@ric5311
I will 10000% be on at 11:59 with the command pre-typed to buy it
@lukey8772
alright
@ric5311
Just need it to show up in the shop and it’s ours
@lukey8772
okay
i will work on ak still
@ric5311
Sounds good, he still has not reached out to me
I’m not worried though, i’m a bit busy so i’m not gonna go out of my way to force him to talk yet
@lukey8772
yeah thats fair
ak did tell me its possible that the apples and carlee just stick together
but i told him that
he would be 5th like in every scenario
@ric5311
We can guarantee him to be 3rd in our group if he comes with us
We can take him over dallas and missouri all day
All we can offer I suppose
Won’t give him much comfort to vote with those two I guess
everyone else seems unworkable though
@lukey8772
yeah i mean
thats all we can do at this point
@ric5311
Yup it’s our best option by far
@lukey8772
anyways, i told ak if he makes the move the move is solely his like he would go from sheep to actually playing for himself
cause rn
the boot order imo is
dallas
you
missouri/me
missouri/me
AK
dallas
you
missouri/me
missouri/me
AK
that has to be riley's plan
i think riley's end goal is to keep cass and ale and carlee gets 4th but idrk
cause i think cass would win that f4 challenge lol
@ric5311
Yeah I think it’s clear that is Riley’s ideal F4 at this point
So hopefully AK receives it and wants to do something about it
@lukey8772
i mean i cant outright tell him this
cause then ak is gonna think im too smart or some shit
and get spooked
@ric5311
earlier today he was basically telling me he didn’t gaf if they did that to him because at least they’re being cool with him unlike us who gave him a headache
@lukey8772
yeah
he is upset with you i think, but from what i gather he would rather make a move than be a sheep
@ric5311
I guess I don’t understand why he’s so mad at me but oh well
@lukey8772
i think its cause of swap tbh
like he did really trust you
@ric5311
Well Emp should’ve not tried to get big move itis idk what he wants 😭😭
But that’s fine I can repair that
@lukey8772
yeah
@ric5311
at least as best as possible
@lukey8772
i think you survive here though unless dallas is immune
@ric5311
Possibly, he’s such an obvious target for them that I wouldn’t be surprised if he was decoy again
But they could just slingshot me
@lukey8772
well
if they dont get dallas and he wins out
then like
riley doesnt win
riley needs dallas out more than you rn
i think they'll keep me rn just because im such a non factor
and missouri they see as a non factor too
but yeah
we are in a really bad spot rn
we just need to stay together and hopefully flip ak
@ric5311
yup it’s all we can hope for, that and we just need to buy all the advantages that reroll in the shop tomorrow
@lukey8772
well i cant buy anything but yeah
@ric5311
I want Riley out soooooo much
@lukey8772
i know idk if its possible this round
ak may suggest carlee too idrk
but he is thinking everything over rn
so i cant really push him
@ric5311
Yeah if he has a name i’ll do whoever he wants
@lukey8772
yeah i know
@ric5311
It’s his round if he joins us
@lukey8772
and thats what im trying to like
get him to understand
he can make the biggest move of the season rn
or he can follow his allies to the slaughter at ftc
@ric5311
I know what i’d choose
@lukey8772
yep
@ric5311
let’s hope he listens to reason
@lukey8772
well
keep this here like missouri and dallas cannot know this
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and you cant tell ak either
@ric5311
i’m keeping most things from this at this point tbh
@lukey8772
but ak has the stone axe
@ric5311
yeah that’s not a problem for me either lol
ahhhh
also great that he told you that
yeah don’t worry I have no reason to speak
@lukey8772
so this vote is literally in ak's hands
@ric5311
It really is
@lukey8772
if he blocks one of them and they ladder
we still win
@ric5311
You can tell him i’ll buy golden axe
i dgaf
act like it’s you throwing me utb if you have to
@lukey8772
ill wait until you actually have it
@ric5311
fair
@lukey8772
just incase
@ric5311
yeah don’t want them to then also be waiting up tonight with me
@lukey8772
yeahhh like this has to be a secret
@ric5311
100%
@lukey8772
but i do think tomorrow is a pivotal day in the game
@ric5311
I’m ready for it
I’ll just pretend with Cass and Riley like i’m interested in doing whatever they want and I have no agency
@lukey8772
yee
@ric5311
Whenever AK reaches out i’ll be ready to be as good of an ally for him as possible
@lukey8772
im hoping you win this one tbh
@ric5311
I hope so too, I put in a lot of effort for it
I usually don’t
But I made a full chart and guessed everyone’s answers this time
@lukey8772
i mean it sucks cause its you or dallas otherwise getting their votes
@ric5311
AK may flip back at some point if I do start winning too many challenges
just knowing how he feels about me
but that’s not a now privlem
let’s survive first
@lukey8772
i mean first we need to survive ye
we can worry about that later
@lukey8772
i threw cass utb to carlee btw
i dont think we have cass so may as well just not care lol
cause i think carlee already knows that i know
dallas is their vote
it kinda made carlee freeze up and then i asked her what happens if dallas wins and she said nothing lol
tbh if they get annoyed with me i dont think ak votes me out this round.
@lukey8772
btw ricci
i did tell ak that riley made an alliance with me you and tully and he seemed shocked like he didnt know
@ric5311
I got a bit fed up of not hearing anything since 9 am this morning so I just said hey to AK and asked how his day was
crickets
@lukey8772
yeah
idk what ak is doing
ill have to check in with him tomorrow
@ric5311
I think he just hates me and isn’t willing to work with me
Crazy grudge to hold idk
@lukey8772
but its weird how hes giving me a lot of info but yeah
im really trying here though
what time did you message AK
@ric5311
right before 8
@lukey8772
oh i think he was asleep by then
last thing AK told me about you is not to tell you much, because he is trying to figure out how to approach you
like i am getting really good talks with ak and i do believe he wants to make a move. im just not sure if he is gonna make it here when he actually has to which is frustrating me to no end
cause lets say they hold onto the ladder
and just 5-4 whoever
ak loses any ability to do anything at 8 even if he convinces cass
@ric5311
last thing AK told me about you is not to tell you much, because he is trying to...
What?? 😭😭😭
I need AK to just grow up and reach out to me and say he’s willing to make a move 💀
@lukey8772
i agree
i just ran the numbers too on the golden axe
if we take one of their votes preferrably not ak's just to see where he is at. and they use the ladder AND stone axe assuming its played on you we lose the revote if they vote you.
Riley Ale Cass Carlee (4)
Missouri Dallas Ricci Garrett (4)
Missouri Dallas Ricci Garrett (4)
ak sides with apple (5)
we steal riley's vote
4 - 6
they ladder
5 - 6
stone axe
5-5
i believe this is accurate too
revote if dallas missouri or myself play it i believe we win
assuming ale has ladder
revote would be if i played the axe:
ale ale cass ak vs garrett garrett garrett dallas missouri
@Ricci [S1; S2] just so you see the breakdown
@ric5311
that makes sense
and in the event they vote for me then I can bait out the slingshot with a flimsy shovel and then use the golden shovel afterwards
@lukey8772
yeah thats smart too
@ric5311
Golden axe would be overkill at that point but we’d still have to use it in case vote is like Dallas insteaf
So yeah we will either do that or i’ll pass you axe
@lukey8772
i would still pass me the axe in the event they do blindside you
cause you know ill use it for you
just... i dont have enough bells to vote and get pete's delivery 💀
but thats another good idea
cause if they do slingshot you im assuming it takes the lesser item
@ric5311
It just takes whatever is played first
@lukey8772
unless they regular slingshot you
ah ok
@ric5311
so if I play a flimsy item first they’ll take that
@lukey8772
thats good to know
@ric5311
no regular slingshot available so I think we’re good there
@lukey8772
alright
@ric5311
There was only the one in rotation that Riley just used
@lukey8772
wasnt that golden
plus we have to be absolutely sure theyre going for you too
cause they think you have all the bells
@ric5311
wasnt that golden
nah Riley’s slingshot was a normal one, just stunned Dallas from using items - golden slingshot steals the item and is played for that person instead
cause they think you have all the bells
I’ll show em what my bells can get me!
@lukey8772
ooooo
i didnt realize that
and yes we got this
@ric5311
Who is specifically annoyed at my bells again? Just Riley and AK?
@lukey8772
i believe so but like we need ak
it probably annoys riley more anyways
@ric5311
Yeah i’m not worried about it
AK doesn’t like me and I can get over that
@lukey8772
fair fair
btw im talking to riley now
she is telling me dallas is their initial plan
not the final plan
@ric5311
so it’s def not dallas
@lukey8772
well it could be
but yeah
i think she is waiting on immunity results
@ric5311
Fair nuff
I just realized I may have to risk doing tree tonight
and I need to land on the 60%
wait actually
@lukey8772
?
idk if theyve taken bells still
@ric5311
Yeah, I just did the math and even if I set alarms for myself and got up overnight and did /rock all the way until tribal id only be at 7,550 after my vote
so I still need 450 more to get the flimsy shovel as well
so I guess I have to tree tonight
and if it fails then I can’t get the axe
idk what other play I have
@lukey8772
thats
insane
@ric5311
or tree tomorrow ig
@lukey8772
ugh
@ric5311
but still a risk
@lukey8772
do you think my idea is better then? 💀
@ric5311
I would rather do the flimsy shovel play cause then we win out even if they vote me
But if it’s not possible it’s not possivle
in which case that’s our only other plan
does wasp sting do 24H cooldown even if you have a golden watering can?
@lukey8772
it would be 12h
cause 50% reduction
@ric5311
Oh that’s fine then
@lukey8772
because
@ric5311
if it fails and stings me I can still give you axe
i’m chilling
@lukey8772
tully had the can
@ric5311
good rng and we win no matter what
@lukey8772
and i told him to spam trees
like dailt
*daily
@ric5311
Yeah that’s probably better than doing bottle before bed
I’ve hit the 2500 end twice and hit <100 like 15 times
11.67% 😔
@lukey8772
that sounds about right though
in 16 you should have 2 jackpots
i think?
maybe its 18
riley is telling me btw
she is worried dallas has something else
and im like oh god not the paranoia again
@ric5311
Yeah feels like she’s just trying to cause chaos now
@lukey8772
idt she needs to
like it really feels extra
i will say even though riley is running things her jury management is bad
at least i kinda think it is
all we can do i think is hope touchy subjects will open people's eyes
and that we dont get lied to again
@ric5311
ale and Riley vc’ing together
@lukey8772
i see
@ric5311
Either Ale or Missouri won
@lukey8772
yee
@ric5311
I think that’s it for me unfortunately
hopefully tomorrow goes well
@lukey8772
wym? you think they are voting you? 🙁
@ric5311
Yeah I feel quite confident they’re voting for me
And I don’t think AK would flip for me
@lukey8772
🙁
@ric5311
Idk, you’re the one getting all the info right now so let me know what you think we need to do
@lukey8772
carlee and cass both called me the biggest liar lmao
idk about that
@ric5311
Yeah I mean AK seems to be the only option to switch to our side at this point
@lukey8772
yep
@ric5311
I just have to pray that you dallas and missouri stick with me
and that AK can wake yp
@lukey8772
???
@ric5311
I think Dallas and Missouri could sell me out
I’m just paranoid
@lukey8772
i wouldnt freak out just yet
@ric5311
yeah no worries, you’re the only person im talking to rn anyways so nobody else is catching any of this paranoia
@lukey8772
yeah thats fair
@ric5311
I’m keeping it to myself for the most part but I gotta vent
@lukey8772
im just kinda upset too
like carlee calls me a liar but has done nothing but lie all game
@ric5311
Yeah idk how Carlee got this status in the tribe
I voted her to want to be at FTC with
what has she done?
@lukey8772
um
her social game is amazing
lol
she's the second biggest threat behind riley
@ric5311
She’s said 4 messages total to me so i’m just not getting that social game
@lukey8772
ye cause she dont like you
im pretty sure
@lukey8772
are you still gonna buy the axe
@ric5311
Yes
@lukey8772
ok
idk what is happening but
ill talk with AK tomorrow if hes down for whatever great and we can vote how he wants. otherwise we will have to just pick one of them
i will say though im second guessing carlee, cause theres 4 apples
and we know at least 3 of them are tight
anyways im gonna sleep im tired and we really cant do much tonight anyways
@ric5311
no golden axe
cool
i’m gonna get the shovel then
and we just need votes to be on me
@ric5311
genuinely gross that the only thing we can bank on is a successful idol play
@lukey8772
yeah it happens
idk why they keep cutting the number of shop items down
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] if you golden shovel and flimsy shovel here. after the vote i knew nothing about either. this will allow me to get information for us still. i asked ak about dallas and he said he doesnt want to vote dallas, but the apples havent approached him with a name yet.
i believe ak is telling the truth cause of time zones
@ric5311
yeah makes sense
it’s probably me, but we could still win this
AK wants to go for me, ghost me, and say that me not reaching out is the problem
but i’ll vote Riley
@lukey8772
why do you think ak wants to vote you?
he literally told me you reached out and that he would reach out to you later cause he is busy today
@ric5311
oh good
why do you think ak wants to vote you?
just my perception off how he talks to me
@lukey8772
like even the conversation i had with him was short
thats fair
i think you both have a similar idea of each other, but from my understanding you both need to work with each other for at least this vote
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@ric5311
i’m crying lol
@lukey8772
i will say, ak does not want to vote dallas or me though
@ric5311
yeah I have no problem with voting with him here
i will say, ak does not want to vote dallas or me though
yeah I figured as much
@lukey8772
brother we are voting riley 😭
@ric5311
I know lol
@lukey8772
okay cool
im just hoping missouri comes online today
like that was pretty bad timing to tell us he wouldnt be around at all today
@ric5311
do I tell AK about my shovel plan? Or is that too risky
@lukey8772
too risky
at least rn
cause missouri is pretty vulnerable lol
and if ak isnt with us, he is still deciding, that's your ace in the hole
but i laid out a really good reasoning for ak to make a move here
so we will see if it works
@ric5311
yeah fair enough
any specific reasoning I should be pulling with AK when we talk? or is that too sus if we’re pushing the same sentiment
@lukey8772
id say just keep it genuine. like he said it was rocky between yall so if you set him off he may back out
obviously dont offer him the world cause he wont believe that
@lukey8772
let me know how it goes. but yeah definitely keep the shovel to yourself
@ric5311
Perfect
@ric5311
I told Dallas the plab
shovel plan*
@lukey8772
alright im being spammed even though i was asleep did something happen
@ric5311
No, let me know if something happened though
@lukey8772
nothing happened they all just spammed me at once
@ric5311
who? all the apples?
I only got reached out to by Riley
@lukey8772
i got aprroached by riley carlee and ale
@ric5311
oh okay
@lukey8772
yeah ill let you know what happens
@ric5311
I think Dallas isn’t happy with what I told him
pretty sure he believes the slingshot will take both shovels, they vote for him instead of me - then i’m negating 8 votes for them
@lukey8772
i mean
we have two options
either play them or dont and risk a 5-4
plus dallas thinks we need ak to throw his vote and im like im not trying to isolate all 4 of us lol
idk id talk to dallas cause if he starts to try to flip shit is gonna get messy
like we all have to be in agreeance this time
@ric5311
yeah i’m still talking to him trying to explain the logic
he clicked with it
I think he’s good now
@lukey8772
ok
missouri may not even check discord today which...
if he doesnt thats stupid but oh well
@ric5311
We can just ping spam the fuck out of him saying to vote Riley
as long as he knows the vote that’s fine
@lukey8772
yeah if you wanna do that at some point thats great
ak is supposed to be telling me whats going on later
but ill also be at work from 1-5 pm est
oh btw @Ricci [S1; S2] i got bells for once from the tree so im just gonna spam rocks from now on cause ill have enough to vote here and at f8 now
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] GOLD AXE IN SHOP
@Ricci [S1; S2]
@Ricci [S1; S2]
@Ricci [S1; S2]
@ric5311
Dude what the fuck
I’m talkin to prod
@lukey8772
sorry
@ric5311
no not you
priduction
I bought the shovel
@lukey8772
about what?
@ric5311
Because they fucked up and didn’t put the axe in last night when they were meant to
and now I don’t have enough for it bc i bought the shovel
@lukey8772
oh god
@ric5311
I’m gonna talk to them about it
cause that’s pretty fucked up
@lukey8772
i would thats crazy
like they updated it overnight too
and it looks like they refreshed
half the items
@lukey8772
okay
ill let you know when i find out more
but are dallas and missouri okay with that happening
@ric5311
I think Riley knows it’s her
and AK also just straight up said, hi I know it’s Riley, i’ll do that so i’m not boring
idk if I trust it but that’s all I got
@lukey8772
did riley talk to you
@ric5311
I asked what her plan was and she said “to try and have the vote not be me”
@lukey8772
lol
yeah we are really getting screwed at all angles
@ric5311
It seems to be the case
I think we just need to get the votes on me and have me shovel at this point
I don’t think we have any votes other than the 4
@lukey8772
ok
@ric5311
But I gotta go now so lmk if that changes
@lukey8772
i will
they arent talking rn
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] its dallas still carlee is pushing dallas to me and ak
so unless they have like
no trust in us and are trying to 4-3-2 the vote lol
but riley is also bluffing you ak said he said nothing
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] have you heard anything
@ric5311
I was just about to hit ya
Just got out of the movie and checked
@lukey8772
AK is freaking out rn
@ric5311
at 11:30 AK said “i’ll vote Riley, I have no idea what anybody else is doing though”
that’s a lie yeah?
@lukey8772
No
@ric5311
oh okay
@lukey8772
Riley made the six
@ric5311
anyways i’m driving now, ill catch up shortly
@lukey8772
And has not spoken in it
Alright I'll be back at work soon but I'm gonna sneak another break
@ric5311
lmfao
Okay sounds good
i’ll ping you once I read everything
@lukey8772
Ty
@ric5311
okay @Garrett [S2] AK and I had a very good chat
I just have to trust him at this point
He was asking about my bells and I had to give him something
So all I said was: “You may see the result of that tonight, but rest assured I am ready to buy us an advantage at 8 if you’re with me”
We had good personal and game chats so i’m hoping he can look past whatever beef there was for him before
@ric5311
We may need Dallas to buy an axe, if AK as with us but doesn’t use his axe, then the vote could wind up 1-0 which is quite treacherous lol.
Their slingshot takes my normal shovel, plus a ladder and another shovel vs my golden shovel 5-4 turns into 1-0 with us still winning. Golden shovel carries to revote so it’s not the end of the world but who knows what else they could possibly have now that the shop has been restocked to hell
Their slingshot takes my normal shovel, plus a ladder and another shovel vs my golden shovel 5-4 turns into 1-0 with us still winning. Golden shovel carries to revote so it’s not the end of the world but who knows what else they could possibly have now that the shop has been restocked to hell
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] why is the vote 1-0
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] why is the vote 1-0
5-4 if we have AK, they ev so then it’s 5-5, they shovel then its 5-3, I shovel they intercept its 5-1, then I golden shovel with slingshot cleared and its 1-0
I can buy a flimsy shovel and then they can intercept that instead and it would be 2-0
of course this is all assuming votes are actually on me
@lukey8772
I'm fairly sure they are voting dallas
Also @Ricci [S1; S2] idk if Dallas or Missouri will be around they're both busy
@ric5311
If they’re going for Dallas I can get an extra vote then?
Would AK use Axe?
@lukey8772
So
AK got host screwed
From what I heard they didn't take his bells before he bought the axe
So they removed the axe
@ric5311
ah
@lukey8772
So he doesn't have that
@ric5311
So I should buy a ladder
@lukey8772
Honestly buy two ladders if you can lmao
@ric5311
I cannot unfortunately
@lukey8772
But I would wait
@ric5311
Stuck with the two shovels
only have one item slot
@lukey8772
Cause AK told me
@ric5311
but i’ll wait
@lukey8772
Ale is suspicious of me
Even though these people made the alliance with me
@ric5311
Interesting
@lukey8772
And I have been at work
@ric5311
See that’s what makes me think that this dallas plan is decoy and they’re going for one of us
@lukey8772
It probably is
@ric5311
they won’t go for missouri i’d imagine
@lukey8772
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't try to snipe me here this time lmao
Let me see what I can find from AK
@ric5311
sounds good
4 ladders in shop so we got time
@lukey8772
I have to go back to work for 20 minutes in about 8 but then I'm home
I'm worried if we buy something soon they will retaliate
Has to be a last minute thing
@ric5311
Yeah I can do that
@lukey8772
If Dallas comes on
Do we want him to buy something too
@ric5311
He definitely should
Cause in the event it’s him and we don’t have ak, we could still possibly win but we need more than just one ladder
@lukey8772
Id ping Dallas then
He is on rn
@ric5311
I just told him
@lukey8772
Okay
@ric5311
and pinged so he should see it
@lukey8772
Well
If Dallas buys a ladder I would get yours before they go
@ric5311
I told him to wait on it as long as he’s able to
We’ll see what he says
@lukey8772
Okay
Would it be worth it for Dallas to also get a flimsy shovel
Incase he is slingshotted
@ric5311
Idk if he’s got the bells for it if he gets the ladder but i’ll ask once he responds
@lukey8772
He said he had 6k
But yeah I'll be back in 30
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@ric5311
No rush to respond to this I just want to get my thoughts out while it came to me. I think it’s smart to play ladder and then normal shovel and then golden shovel for me. If they do slingshot me then that means i’m the vote, so them only getting +1 vote is better than intercepting the 2 vote shovel and likely playing it on Riley.
If the slingshot ISNT played on me, that’s where playing ladder first benefits us the most because then we know the vote is on Dallas and I can pocket the normal shovel for future use since it has 4 tribals on it whereas the golden shovel HAS to be played tonight
If the slingshot ISNT played on me, that’s where playing ladder first benefits us the most because then we know the vote is on Dallas and I can pocket the normal shovel for future use since it has 4 tribals on it whereas the golden shovel HAS to be played tonight
@lukey8772
alright
im home now
ak is freaking out none of the apples are talking to him
whereas cassandra is talking to me for some reason
@ric5311
Cassandra also just shot me a dm
@lukey8772
whats she saying
@ric5311
She said hiya
I said hi i haven’t been very active so id love to be told what to do
@lukey8772
did she give a name
@ric5311
no response yet
@lukey8772
okay
just keep me posted cause ak is freaking out
and im like trying to tell him it makes no sense for anyone to target him but paranoia
@Ricci [S1; S2] are we sure dallas and missouri are like with us here? im not trying to stir shit, but like it seems weird how riley knows her name is out there and theyre both online but busy today
cause ak never said anything and hes been super paranoid
like unless hes playing really damn well rn but he swore to me he is with us
or at least riley said to you shes trying to stay alive
@ric5311
I don’t think so, this was pretty normal of them throughout all the time I knew them in the game before. Plus I think they genuinely can’t stand some of those people
@lukey8772
i agree i just am trying to think of a way riley would have any idea then that we want her gone... unless she is just baiting people
@ric5311
I think touchy subjects probably
@lukey8772
ah okay
@ric5311
she knows she’s a threat
@lukey8772
that would make sense
if she knew that you would think she wouldnt have built a sheep army
has dallas replied?
@ric5311
Nope
@lukey8772
ugh
@ric5311
he said he had a friend coming in town and hasn’t said anything since, I have faith he’ll check before the vote
we wanna buy the advantage late anyways
I believe
if not i’ll ping the shit out of him right before tribal lol
@lukey8772
fair fair
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] AK said Dallas was acting weird he won't say who all is voting riley
@ric5311
Does Dallas just not trust AK?
@lukey8772
Idk but ak is freaking out
If Dallas just destroyed this plan imma be pissed
Cause we have everything lined up rn
@ric5311
Just tell AK that Dallas is terrified it’s him but he’s 100% in
AK will trust you more than Dallas
give up his plan to use an EV against Riley if you have to
@lukey8772
AK told me
I just voted Riley I'm going to bed
If y'all played me gg
Not much we can do with ak other than trust him
Atp
@ric5311
Hey we’ll take that lol
better he’s offline that scrambling
@lukey8772
Yeah
@ric5311
If he isn’t with us i’m gonna cringe
Cause he doesn’t need to be this paranoid
@lukey8772
Yeah considering we have everything lined up
He also
Shouldn't lie if he isn't with us
Like we are on bottom anyway
@ric5311
Cass told me that Riley and Dallas are the two names out there
@lukey8772
Excuse me
How tf does cass know
@ric5311
I acted aloof and said I haven’t been on much the last 48 hours so I hadn’t gotten a name yet but I appreciate her reaching out and asked what would you like me to do
I think it’s a bluff
@lukey8772
Okay
@ric5311
But after that she said she thinks majority is on Dallas so I said done thanks for telling me, I hope to prove some trust since we haven’t talked much this round
@lukey8772
Yeah that's good
Dude I hope we pull this off
Like this vote is gonna be insane but no items have been bought so far
@ric5311
It would be glorious
swing this shit back in our favor
@lukey8772
Right
@lukey8772
im finally home
@ric5311
Okay good
nothing has changed on my end
I confirmed with prod everything i’m doing with advantages lol
@lukey8772
you just gotta buy the ladder at some point
/right
right?
idk why ym keyboard spazzed
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*my
@ric5311
yeah I told them I was gonna
all included in my plans
@lukey8772
alright
i am slightly worried since they are assuming riley is the other name out there
but atp idk what we do
@ric5311
We can’t change at this point lol
@lukey8772
ik
@ric5311
Hope they think we’re soft and would change it if they’re publicly saying Riley
we ain’t scared
@lukey8772
nope
its crazy cause
ak told me ale doesnt trust me and im like who?
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they havent given me anything this game
@ric5311
yup ale and carlee have totally shut me out this game 💀💀
@lukey8772
its really sad that ale called us sheep too when he wont even talk to half the game
dallas told me that we may not even get votes at ftc if any of the friend group makes it which kinda sucks, but i see his point
@ric5311
Yeah I think the only person we could win against from that side is AK
@lukey8772
yeep
@ric5311
that’s why I have faith that none of us are gonna flip
they despise em and can’t win against em
@lukey8772
yknow that makes me feel better
ty
im just hoping this works cause next round i bet theyll bombard us with advantages again
@ric5311
I know :/ I think i’ll be able to get another advantage for next round but I gotta imagine they have more bells than us total
@lukey8772
oh well lets just focus on surviving here
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i do think trusting ak was the right move considering since merge only orange tribe people have been voted out
@ric5311
Riley just voted out Ale in starvivor 😭
@lukey8772
thats crazy
idk if it matters here in this game
@ric5311
not at all
just thought it was funny
@lukey8772
thats funny ye
@ric5311
hey if anything if Ale found the key idol I suppose they wouldn’t be as inclined to use it on Riley tonight lol
@lukey8772
never know
@ric5311
but i’m confident that shit is never being found
@lukey8772
idk where the last 2 keys are
doesnt help people planted a million either
@lukey8772
riley talking about having an idol in tribal makes me think she doesnt have one
@ric5311
I agree
I think we got em here
I don’t want to be too confident
@lukey8772
did you just buy a ladder
@ric5311
yes
@lukey8772
ok ok
thats good
@ric5311
I have to help my gf unpack her car so I just want to be safe
@lukey8772
yeah no worries
i wonder if they'll run tribal soon
well.. like before 9
@ric5311
I have a feeling they’re gonna wait until exactly time cause there will be many advantage plays again
they want people to be ready
@lukey8772
ughhh fair
what was our game plan again if you had a moment
@ric5311
At least for me, my hope is that if they slingshot me, they just take my extra vote and then I get to play both my shovels and negate 8 votes and we should win. If they don’t slingshot me and my EV goes thru, i’ll probably only play the 6 vote golden shovel and then hold the 2 vote normal shovel for us later, cause in that scenario i’d assume their votes are on Dallas and we just need AK with us to win or for someone not to vote on their side
@lukey8772
alright cool cool
@ric5311
My brain can’t do the math of what happens with both our EV’s and AK not being with us and they vote Dallas but i’d assume we lose
@lukey8772
yeah ill run the numbers quick
think it would just be a 5-4
on dallas
@ric5311
okay so yeah we need AK if the votes are on Dallas
If they’re dumb enough to vote me then we should win no matter what
@lukey8772
yeah we need ak if they vote any of us but you
@ric5311
I pray not
I’ll be a fish in the water if they take out tully and then you B2B
and also very upset
@lukey8772
we will see what happens but idt theyll slingshot me at all
@ric5311
Yeah i’d imagine the slingshot is coming for either Dallas or I, i’d guess they’re scared I have multiple things and therefore want to vote and slingshot Dallas instead
@lukey8772
yeee
i agree with that
@lukey8772
here we go 2 minutes good luck
hoping we get through this
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@ric5311
let’s do this shit
I hope
@lukey8772
we did it
@ric5311
that was amazing
I can’t believe it was that easy
that means next round will be very hard lmao
@lukey8772
yep
btw cass didnt vote she said she wanted riley out idk if its true but
ale is pissed at ak
and carlee went offline i think
@ric5311
Yeah I would imagine AK is top of their target list after that
@lukey8772
yeah ale said he never thought i was voting with them
but yall might need to damage control ak too
the ladders are gonna be a turn off for sure
@ric5311
I sent him a message immediately
@lukey8772
alright
@lukey8772
btw i was talking to cass and she was like "when are the side wars gonna end?" i said idk probably soon. i genuinely have no clue what else to say to her 😭
@ric5311
They are definitely incentivized for it to end eventually
@lukey8772
atp yeah
@ric5311
But I don’t want to lose to Carlee i’m sorry
she gotta go
@lukey8772
you think her next?
@ric5311
or Cass 💀
I don’t mind who next, I think Carlee could be easiest to get out next
@lukey8772
tbh i feel like out of the 3 ale is the one that we have like no connection to though
@ric5311
Unless AK has a preference that keeps him with us 5v3
@lukey8772
but thats fair
also yes thats true
@ric5311
Ale is definitely very scary
@lukey8772
yeah plus
remember
ale called ak out so they will have beef
@ric5311
did ale do that publicly?
@lukey8772
yes its in the six
@ric5311
ooh I see
@lukey8772
which is now 5 without riley
💀
@ric5311
Ale called AK dumb to me
@lukey8772
ngl they never viewed ak as a number we did this round that was the game changer
wait
ally
i am too tired for this game LOL
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@ric5311
yeah we genuinely valued him
we did ship him on the promise that this was a big move and he takes control but now that entire side hates him 💀💀
@lukey8772
i mean i think its just ale
cass and carlee havent expressed much
well not to ak anyways that ik of
@lukey8772
ok nvm i was wrong yeah ak is gonna be in trouble next vote
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@ric5311
💀
woke up in the middle of the night and went straight to check the server again 😔
would love to hear what you’ve heard though lmao, i’ve heard from ale and cass so far and ale was way more direct about it but yeah I think they want AK to pay for this
@lukey8772
ale wont talk to me but carlee and cass arent happy with ak
ale also like is at the point where he told ak if he goes to the end with you missouri and dallas he doesnt get any votes 🙁 feels really ick almost
@lukey8772
i would be curious to know your thoughts for next vote too. i know we were discussing between carlee and ale, but i think even though carlee has a strong social game right now, she is more beneficial to keep around for a vote or two. mainly because i feel like the other two, ale and cass, are better at challenges than she is, and if we wanna secure immunity on our side then we should look at that angle too. like im fine voting carlee out, i just want to make sure the order we do things makes sense yknow?
@lukey8772
ooo an auction
@ric5311
Oh dear this challenge is fucked lmao
@lukey8772
how so
@ric5311
Just trying to coordinate all the bids and not walk ourselves into a trap where we bid over each other and then allow our enemies to get all the good items
@lukey8772
yeah lol
i just asked production if we bid over each other do we get our money back and they are discussing it now
@ric5311
see that’s where i’m confused
cause money should only be deducted if you actually win an item by 9 pm
@lukey8772
worst case is ill just go 500 on the item i sent in on 🤷♂️
@ric5311
I think that’s probably my play at the moment, get an extra 50 tokens and then splash 550 last min on whatever I want that won’t fuck one of us over
@lukey8772
yee sounds good
@ric5311
Would be objectively hilarious if whoever got the S4 auto cast was first boot whenever that season came around
@lukey8772
that would be the biggest meme of the server probably
@ric5311
I’m probably only considering F8 Immunity, F6 Immunity, Gold Shovel, Resetti’s, normal axe, stone axe, information, or extortion
everything else useless af I think
@lukey8772
yee i sent in for extortion but dallas is all across the board it has me confused but if he gets stuff cool
ye if we get outbid we get our money back
@ric5311
yup just clarified that as well
okay I think we can win this
@lukey8772
for sure
@ric5311
we should just talk in our 4 person chat and all pick an item
dump last min on it
maybe even include AK?
@lukey8772
wouldnt hurt
@ric5311
wanna make a 5 person alliance today with our 4 + ak? “auctioneers” or something lmfao. I think it would be a good faith sign of trust if we all communicate with each other what we’re planning on bidding for so that all 5 of us can get something out of this auction. Probably the best move we can do right now to ensure unity
@lukey8772
sure
im down i dont really think its a bad idea to include ak atp
the others dont wanna talk to him 💀
@ric5311
grrrr
they need to suck it up so AK feels good about them 😭
@lukey8772
i meant carlee cass and ale
@ric5311
OH
@lukey8772
but okay 😂
yee lmao
@ric5311
I thought you meant dallas and missouri LMAO
I was like damn
@lukey8772
no lol
@ric5311
Okay good, then yeah we def should
@lukey8772
i gotta go to work soon
so im probably not the one to request
@ric5311
Yeah you’re good, i’m gonna approach the idea with everyone first and make sure they’re good with it
@lukey8772
good idea dont pull a riley LOL
She told me but not ak about the 6
like okay then
@ric5311
Yeah i’m definitely gonna make sure everyone actually wants to do it before I make the chat 😭😭
@lukey8772
i would
@ric5311
I said the same thing to both dallas and missouri that the other 3 are icing AK out hard and that if we give him good signs of trust we can really lock him in against them
@lukey8772
it would be nice
especially if ale is immune here
@lukey8772
i spoke to ak
i think hes fine with the 5 too
@ric5311
Yup AK said to me as well
oh oops I said i’ll talk to you about it now
hopefully he doesn’t find that sus lol
@lukey8772
wym
i dont think he has many options either way rn lol
@ric5311
Once he agreed with me I was like “oh good i’ll ask the other 3 now!” as if I came to him with it first 😭😭
very minor
not a big deal
he doeznt
@lukey8772
eh yeah its whatever
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im gonna get ready to get going but ill be around. if yall have a plan ill just squeeze into it later cause idk how busy work will be today
@ric5311
why are these dudes bidding on the non game things
@lukey8772
Idk but um where's that alliance
Or did they say nah to it?
@ric5311
They did say yes to it but I just got out of a movie
@lukey8772
Oh I'm sorry I have been at work
Also Dallas giving Cass that information made me tilt a bit lol
@ric5311
no worries you’re good, just requested
@lukey8772
Ty
@ric5311
Ale 500 on individual immunity (0)
Missouri 450 on Discord Nitro, 30 on Fio cameo (20)
Dallas 340 on Fio letter, 80 on Extortion, 35 Vaulting pole (45)
Garrett 10 on bird (490)
AK 300 on Golden Shovel, 100 on Axe (100)
Carlee 300 on Information (200)
Cass no bids (500)
Missouri 450 on Discord Nitro, 30 on Fio cameo (20)
Dallas 340 on Fio letter, 80 on Extortion, 35 Vaulting pole (45)
Garrett 10 on bird (490)
AK 300 on Golden Shovel, 100 on Axe (100)
Carlee 300 on Information (200)
Cass no bids (500)
Current auction standings
parenthesis number is $ remaining
Dallas at least can get something else, Missouri blew it all on discord nitro and a fio cameo… and it looks like Cass is waiting until last min to snipe something under our noses
So we will have to be extra smart about this since our allies were not lmao
Oh Cass has been making bids actually
that’s good
i’m gonna continue to sit back for now
@lukey8772
alright im here now
also why does no one want pete
the bird is like insane i can trade items with anyone if i read it correctly
@ric5311
Yeah exactly, requires consent of course but whoever has it basically makes it so all their allies can pass whatever advantages they want
Like if Dallas wanted to pass Missouri something you could do it for him
@lukey8772
yup
@ric5311
Or trick someone into doing that I guess lol
@lukey8772
i mean ill take it for 10 lol
@ric5311
Idk what i’m going for yet. I have a shovel in my inventory already so I only have 2 slots and I fucked up and currently have top bids on fossil immunity and resetti’s which is 3 item slots lmao
So i’ve already cooked this
@lukey8772
i can outbid you on the fossil if you want
@ric5311
Go for it if you want it
I’ll do Resetti’s and something else
Or take resetti’s if you prefer that, it’s basically F7 immunity unless you totally blow the challenge
@lukey8772
ehhh idk if i can it takes 2 slots and ill get pete
me when im a challenge flop
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ill try for resetti though ig
@lukey8772
nvm dallas outbid me on that
@lukey8772
i just read the fuck snubbs chat and im like 😐
@ric5311
Yeah it’s a bit silly
like are they lowering their threat level on purpose by buying the stupid things?
@lukey8772
idk tbh
it feels like missouri isnt even playing at times but he is
@ric5311
Dallas is also overbidding on more than he can afford and causing me to spend more
it’s annoying
@lukey8772
why tf did he just take pete from me
im ngl dallas is pissing me off
@ric5311
I just dm’d him
I’ve had it
It was nice, i’m not ripping him or anything
but dude…
read the room
he’s just killing us
@lukey8772
yeah basically
he deleted his bid
@ric5311
I told him to stop and I guess he deleted his bid 😭
@lukey8772
like
@ric5311
He wasn’t even able to make the bid either
i’m just letting it go
@lukey8772
💀
@ric5311
I don’t want attention on that item lmao
@lukey8772
i dont want to bid up on petes thats bs
@ric5311
he’s fucking bidding on it again
what is wrong with him lmao
@lukey8772
idk
but idk what hes doing
im really mad rn
not at game but
still i dont need dallas trolling
@ric5311
Yeah I feel you
I’m just gonna put my phone down until like 8 when buds start wrapping up
bids
@lukey8772
that is smart
im gonna be eating soon anyways
so
yeah but ill be around after
@ric5311
I made another exchange
@lukey8772
what happened
@ric5311
nothing happened I just want enough tokens to dominate the other side for whatever I go for last minute
I have 600 total and I don’t believe anybody else has made any exchanges
@lukey8772
imma be honest id take immunity here. like do we really want one of them immune
@ric5311
I think I will
That’s probably the main bomb
I have 600 for it
@lukey8772
it limits our options
yee
has cass made any purchases?
@ric5311
Cass and Carlee have been going back and forth on the Information and Carlee has it right now so Cass has all 500 available
@lukey8772
yeah theyre probably gonna take the axe if you take immunity too soon lol
@ric5311
I’m gonna do it last minute
I’m trying to get immunity + something
hoping people pull the trigger too early
@lukey8772
well
@ric5311
I’m gonna be able to be on at 8:59
@lukey8772
we wouldve had more bells to work with
but oh well
or whatever the currency is
@ric5311
Yeah it’s all good, better safe than sorry i’d say
@lukey8772
true
@ric5311
Unless they’ve just been failing to announce it, i’m the only one who’s made exchanges for more tomrns
tokens^
@lukey8772
yee i mean imma be real idt anyone has 600 anyways
actually ale might snipe the shovel
i may up my bid on petes
@ric5311
I’m hoping to wait very last min on immunity and fuck ale over
@lukey8772
yee
mean but fair
😂
@ric5311
gotta do what we gotta do lmao
@lukey8772
oh ik
it doesnt bother me
btw
cass reached out to me earlier and she was like "why does everyone think im a mole"
im like idk maybe cause you keep calling yourself one? i didnt say this but like
if someone keeps saying theyre this then it becomes true
@ric5311
Yeah she’s doing that to herself 😭😭 I’m really interested to see who the targets end up being for this next vote
Like idk if they’re gonna be able to stay united at this point
@lukey8772
i think itll be ak and whoever we target
i mean idk
@ric5311
yep that’s what I thought too
@lukey8772
it depends on what they have for items
like if they snipe me on petes and the axe and the shovel we kinda are screwed
@ric5311
yeah that’s true we need one of the axe or shovel
they have a ladder still I believe
assuming Riley had the slingshot and not that
@lukey8772
did someone buy a ladder?
i mightve missed that
@ric5311
Yeah on F9 immunity day
@lukey8772
wait gimme a second
ok
i think ak mentioned he got a ladder at some point but idk if its the f9 one
so maybe theres 2 out there
@ric5311
I think that was the same day he was claiming to have bought the axe but didn’t have bells for it
and they were both bought at the same time
@lukey8772
maybe he switched items
@ric5311
so I don’t believe that was him
@lukey8772
idk
@ric5311
yeah who knows
@lukey8772
its hard to say
hmm i guess it doesnt matter rn
oh btw i did wanna ask
are you fine keeping carlee this round? i feel like it would help us out at f7 cause dallas and missouri dont really talk to her either. plus i think ak wants cass or ale out although im sure he will mention something when tribal starts.
@ric5311
Perfectly happy with that
To be honest with you I really don’t mind in what order, I just want those 3 out asap - we auto lose to all of them and if we manage a F5 with us, the duo and AK - I love our chances of one of us winning this game
@lukey8772
yeah
i kinda figured that and for what its worth i dont think anyone cares in what order. obviously immunity will be a factor
but
i will say im fine going to the end with you. i think it would be a fun ftc at least i just hope you feel the same.
@ric5311
100% man, we’ve been through too much together and to be quite honest with you - just the way I play these games I would always rather go to the end with a close ally than someone I hardly played the game with
@lukey8772
i appreciate it
@ric5311
Of course, out of the 8 people left nothing would please me more than one of us two specifically winning
@lukey8772
same here 😄
@ric5311
Production hasn’t announced my second swap or clearly defined if there are no more swaps allowed which is bothering me
Like if there’s no more swaps allowed I know i’m the only one who made an exchange and I can get away with winning immunity for 505 and have 95 to spend elsewhere
But they haven’t announced my second swap so i’m not even confident that other people haven’t done the same thing and they’ve forgotten to announce it
@lukey8772
im pretty sure they forgot about the comp again
or are just busy
@ric5311
Idk i’ve pinged them 10+ times today I feel incredibly annoying
@lukey8772
im sure they dont mind
@ric5311
I just have so many questions and the lack of answers is destroying my auction plan
@lukey8772
honestly just bid 505 on immunity you know they confirmed that at least
@ric5311
I just don’t want to tip my hand in case other people made exchanges that haven’t been announced yet
Cause bids are still allowed until 9, no shot they’d shut it down early
@lukey8772
i think theyll forget then accept late bids idk its a little rough
@ric5311
I’m gonna fight for it if they accept late bids. challenge rules say cutoff is 9 pm so even if they forget they can still retroactively follow the rules and just cutoff anybody who sent a bid too late
@lukey8772
oh yeah thats fair i dont blame you either
@ric5311
Damn
I got my andwer
Cass got an extra 100
so we could tie for immunity
idk what to do now
@lukey8772
idk
just hope she snatches immunity ig?
but she probably wouldnt unless you did
its a tough call
@ric5311
I’m gonna try to negotiate with her lol
@lukey8772
good luck
@ric5311
We’re definitely both lying to each other but we agreed for her to take information and for me to take fossilized immunity and S4 auto cast 😭😭😭
I’m sniping that immunity oh my lord get fucked
@lukey8772
lmao?
wait
when does this challenge end
@ric5311
9 pm
@lukey8772
yee
ty
incase they take pete from me or the axe i might take the stone axe idk though? like, i feel bad cause ak is asleep rn but
@ric5311
Cass is def lying idk why I even thought she wouldn’t be
yeah that’s a good idea I think, nothing you can do about him not being online
Carlee only other one bidding for information Cass isn’t stealing that from her
So I guess i’m going 50/50 with her on immunity?
@lukey8772
well its either that or im taking extortion from dallas idk
yeah yall might be
idk why i bid on this stupid pole
carlee cant snipe the axe but she can take pete from me... hmm
lemme run numbers
yeah id have to throw 235 on pete and 15 on the stone axe?
cause i think carlee has 190 left
@ric5311
Hey vaulting pole gives you the next best chance at immunity next to whoever has resetti’s
@lukey8772
dallas has resetti i think
im too lazy to look though
@ric5311
Yeah he does right now
I think he’s bid on more than he can hold though
so idk what they’re gonna do with that
@lukey8772
then is he gonna care if i take extortion
like idk why he did that
@ric5311
Idk he played this auction poorly
I think he didn’t factor in the item count max
and thought he could bid low on a lot and get multiple things
@lukey8772
they literally said keep count too
@ric5311
Yeah I can’t even guess what he was thinking lmao
@lukey8772
12 more minutes
@ric5311
Looks like Cass and I are playing chicken with our bids, if she just throws out something over 500 then I can lock in my plan
But if she waits until :59 then we’re both just guessing
@lukey8772
she aint doing that until the last minute tbh
unless she forgets
@ric5311
Nah she was responding to me pretty avidly just a couple mins ago, she def has a plan
@lukey8772
yep
we will see
imma up bid on petes soon
@ric5311
OMG
Cass fucked up
@lukey8772
???????
@ric5311
she has a 10 bid on the S4 auto cast
she doesn’t have enough lol
@lukey8772
LOOOOOL
@ric5311
Okay do I just do 595 on immunity then
@lukey8772
yep
theyll probably take the shovel
@ric5311
i’m nervous
@lukey8772
for what
@ric5311
for this cutoff 😭
@lukey8772
2 minutes left
they should honor it
@ric5311
i’m about to go for it
@lukey8772
ok wait until the clock changes to 59
@ric5311
yep
@lukey8772
yee
@ric5311
keep dm’ing me so I can see lol
@lukey8772
ok
i
@ric5311
i’m testing
@lukey8772
yes
@ric5311
cmon
okay
@lukey8772
there you go
@ric5311
go go go
@lukey8772
ok so we got a lot of things then cass didnt even do anything lol
@ric5311
wow
They better honor this deadline holy shit lol
@lukey8772
but ye the shovel was kinda gonna go
@ric5311
Idk what they’ll do with Dallas’ items, but I bid 585 so that if his bid on fossilized immunity doesn’t count - I get it for my remaining 15
So I think I played it well
@lukey8772
nice
i mean i didnt out bid dallas cause like i dont wanna piss him off but i assume they will give out his items to next highest
cause otherwise thats kinda unfair?
@ric5311
Yeah that’s what I would imagine they’ll do
@lukey8772
and we have pete so like
ale is gonna save himself lol
@ric5311
yeah for sure
@lukey8772
i do think and we can talk about it when tribal opens but as long as we have 5 we are set this vote
@ric5311
Yup we should be
God I can’t wait until they finalize this challenge
@lukey8772
plus we have the stone axe and axe
we kinda dominated just us
and ak
he got something for 10 💀
@ric5311
yeah they played that horribly idk what happened
Cass spent 2000 bells to do nothing
that’s game losing lmao
@lukey8772
LMFAO right 😭
i do think by me not sniping dallas he wont be mad at me
even though i was a little upset he raised pete on me
but then i raised it on myself
so eh
@ric5311
Yeah hopefully he won’t be upset, it would be stupid to hold a grudge over this
@lukey8772
yes it would be
i didnt take it from him
but he bid 375 on the letter 😭
@ric5311
Just incredible shit man 😭😭😭
that letter better be fucking good man
@lukey8772
fr fr
its okay i think we are in a good spot
did missouri get anything?
@ric5311
I have no idea tbh
Ale dm’d me “fuck u!” 😭😭
@lukey8772
yikes
tbh it was the right play
cause with the axe or stone axe we could potentially like split here lol
idk though i havent ran numbers
@ric5311
i’m at another movie starting now so i’ll miss results but let’s pray we got everything we think we got
still can’t believe cass didn’t bid
@lukey8772
no worries talk when you get back!
❤️ 1
ikr
cass is crazy
@lukey8772
dallas got resetti and the fossil???
oh and extortion???
huh
@lukey8772
so we have a massive problem rn
dallas wants carlee to go here. i dont think ak will like that
idk if he will vote cass lol
@ric5311
He dm’d me separately as well so i’ll try to work on him
and yeah I was a bit bummed he managed to get all that lmfao I wanted F6 immunity 😭😭
oh… dallas had to give it up
so he fucked me over by bidding on it when I told him not to
That’s…, something
I’m holding all of my negative thoughts within me
I won’t hold a vendetta and try to blindside him at 7 because of that truly moronic move
@lukey8772
good morning
the auction was something, like again they really are only looking out for themselves. i would be incredibly careful cause i think if carlee goes here dallas is gonna try to work with cassandra. idk if he can work with ale but we may be putting ourselves at risk where there are 4 cherries after this vote no matter what we do or say.
@lukey8772
btw do you know if dallas ever got bells from ale
@lukey8772
also also, let me know when you are on. There is something you should know.
@ric5311
the auction was something, like again they really are only looking out for thems...
Good morning, yeah I agree with you on this
@lukey8772
well it gets worse
Dallas told me like right after Tully went home, and this is why i have been like "oh do we have Dallas?" because he told me you made a 3 at merge with him and missouri. he tried to get me to think i was fourth in the alliance. and i feel now with this auction and everything that has happened, he is banking on nothing happening here or at 7 to make a big move at 6 if you catch my drift.
and keep in mind this was like right after tully left i was already upset over losing tully
i didnt say anything cause i didnt want to cause any distrust
but i genuinely believe Dallas is power tripping
@ric5311
I think he is, and I think he’s believed he’s played a better game than he actually has. So… my thought was going to F5 with AK and then Dallas/Missouri so that we cut them at 4/5. We do have a 3 person alliance but 😭😭😭 I think those two don’t have a lick of strategic thoughts and I would always choose you over them
So if we think Dallas is gearing up for something big let’s take him out at 7 instead?
@lukey8772
yeah and thats how Dallas tried framing it too like "oh we had this 3 and yall were 5 and 4" and im like thinking to myself. dude i just lost tully why are you kicking me when im down
yeah i appreciate it though ricci i just wanted to be upfront cause like thats why i genuinely think we need carlee
cause if she goes it opens the door for dallas to use missouri cass and ale
@ric5311
I’m down, I want to believe that Dallas and Missouri are smart enough to know that they’d lose to either Cass or Ale and therefore wouldn’t flip on us to work with one of them. But i’ve been talking to them way less over the last 48H or so, so I really don’t know what they’re thinking right now
@lukey8772
i mean i hope they wouldnt either and thats why i think dallas might wait until 6
i think in his mind
if he gets carlee here cass/ale at 7
he can flip ak and either cass/ale at 6 and then we get 6 and 5
that is what i believe Dallas is doing and it makes sense
cause idk if ak will side with us forever either
cause if dallas takes ak and missouri to ftc
then the argument for "friend group winner" is gone and missouri kinda has been following dallas
but yeah ill trust you here i just think we need to tread carefully
@ric5311
Yeah let’s try and convince them to go Cass here, if we get any pushback that concerns us at all, we cut his throat at 7 🤷♂️
@lukey8772
yep
that was my thought cause i think at this point ale is gonna be at 6
and ale is mad at you and thinks im a goat 💀
wont talk to me at all
@ric5311
Ale being mad at me for playing the auction like I should is laughable
@lukey8772
RIGHT
thats what im saying
these people are wild dude
@ric5311
I think that this could be a way trickier spot for us but maybe the only winning one if we want to avoid Dallas/Missouri moving on us. But maybe we go to 5 with AK, Carlee, Ale and just hope that we win both immunities to take them out
If not we would have to rope back in missouri after dumping dallas
idk how easy that would be
Dallas has resetti’s so he’s guaranteed to lose F7 immunity
@lukey8772
yeah
either way the end game is gonna be tricky i think
i have the axe though and if we can like keep ak with us he has the stone axe
@ric5311
I got a 2 vote shovel we can pass between us now as well with pete’s
@lukey8772
oh you got a shovel?
@ric5311
if we can both hold our advantages for this round we’re in a way better spot
@lukey8772
yea
@ric5311
yeah the one I held onto last round
@lukey8772
i didnt wanna use the axe
cool cool
@ric5311
this
@lukey8772
yee i believe you dw
but im glad we talked
cause like it made me a little uncomfortable lol
@ric5311
So 2 votes negated + block a vote for F7 and beyond
@lukey8772
axe is a vote steal
@ric5311
oh even better
@lukey8772
stone axe is a block
ye
mine expires at 6
aks expires at 5
i think ill be fine here this vote
like i dont think it makes sense unless dallas hard targets me
which idt he would
@ric5311
And yeah i’m sorry for never like defining that 3 person alliance and reconfirming how locked in I am with you. My loyalty ain’t with those guys though, even though they’re been with us for these last few votes i’m ngl they’re insufferable to work with sometimes 😭😭
like i dont think it makes sense unless dallas hard targets me
Nah he def won’t at this vote
@lukey8772
oh youre good i trust you dude. thats why i came forward with the information after i thought about it i was like Dallas is kinda playing in my face lol
and the auction proved that
like f10 i was like ehhh okay maybe theyre dumb
but twice is when im like okay no theres more here
@ric5311
Man I think they’re dumb as shit too! 💀 Dallas is supposed to be locked in with me and he took fossilized immunity just to burn it and make us all compete for it again
@lukey8772
yep and like if hosts put it in rotation idk if they will what do we do if the opps get it
@ric5311
literally explained the rules to him and why he should stop bidding on things, he said “Okay, got it!” and then fuckin did it again 💀
@lukey8772
sounds about right
@ric5311
yep and like if hosts put it in rotation idk if they will what do we do if the o...
I was thinking it may be hidden in the server
@lukey8772
i do believe his f3 is ak and missouri
hmm
@ric5311
probably right
@lukey8772
that could be interesting then
ill keep my eyes peeled
they may not hide it until tribal ends either
i still think splitting between cass and ale is smartest as well, but idt we can really do that safely
@lukey8772
btw did ale give dallas bells?
@ric5311
i still think splitting between cass and ale is smartest as well, but idt we can...
Yeah I doubt it, let’s see what people say today though
btw did ale give dallas bells?
not as far as I know, why would ale give him any bells?
@lukey8772
extortion
dallas already used it without talking to any of us last night lol he said who should i pick i said cass and he said ok ale it is
but ye i agree imma lay low for now
@lukey8772
did you not know that?
@ric5311
OHHHHH for extortion lmfao I thought you were just saying ale was giving him bells out of the kindness of their heart 😭😭
I don’t think they’ve done it yet
i’m pretty sure it’ll be announced publicly
@lukey8772
ah okay makes sense
@ric5311
Should we loop AK in on our thoughts to snipe Dallas soon? Could help lock him in more solidly as our 3rd if that’s what our plan is
@lukey8772
yeah we can if thats our plan. i really dont know what ak is thinking as he hasnt been around though
@ric5311
I think now that he’s made that move to take out Riley, the power has swung back to us and he’s waiting for us to take the lead and tell him what’s happening next. But yeah I think he’s our best choice to go to FTC with right now, we both likely beat him and he’s most likely to stay loyal to us out of everyone left I think
@lukey8772
alright
i can talk to ak if you want
@ric5311
For sure, I also reached out to him this morning now that we’re pretty friendly again - no response yet though
@lukey8772
alright ill wait for you to finish your response then
by the way, carlee will ask me at some point today if the votes are landing on her. im going to tell her that dallas threw her name out there just incase if they have anything they use it on her. is that okay?
i can also be more discreet i just dont want her thinking its you pushing her
@ric5311
Yeah definitely
I appreciate it
cause she has thought i’m her enemy this entire game and I swear I didn’t even want to vote for her when I did at the may day tribal 💀💀
@lukey8772
honestly
dallas has screwed you guys every step of the way no offense. like me fran and carlee were gonna just work with apples at swap and merge cause we felt yall just wanted our entire og tribe out. then chris o got booted and when we merged learning what dallas and chris did its like... 💀
thats how bad things were before swap started
@ric5311
Nah i’m ngl my entire gameplan preswap was to reunite with Tully and run the game with him since I horribly blindsided him in S1 😭😭😭 Then we made our trio and you easily became my best ally
I wanted to get away from those two asap, it wasn’t fun on og pear
@lukey8772
yee i appreciate it. and i figured
like ive only seen their merge game
and im like this is so messy
@ric5311
Thankfully they’re predictable and on our side
@lukey8772
for now ye 😭
@ric5311
Do you think we could use Carlee to vote em out?
@lukey8772
if shes here ye
i was gonna slightly talk to her
idk if she will protect cass though thats the only thing
@ric5311
Cause we can get one of Ale or Cass this round, then bring Carlee in and do me/you/ak/carlee at 7
@lukey8772
i get the thought process but keep in mind carlee and ale are close too
@ric5311
Yeah true, we may need to just leave her out of this vote and hope she’s willing to forgive and work with us at 7 then
Okay yeah true
@lukey8772
i think she would be fine
but ill talk to her cause its more likely if we can get even a 4 with ale and carlee next round thats better than nothing 😭
but ale and ak are never working together
@ric5311
but ale and ak are never working together
Hey that’s cool with us, if we can keep them pointed at each other that’s even better
@lukey8772
i dont think its me pointing them at each other
they fought in 1 on 1s i heard from ak
like ale said if ak goes to the end with a pear that ale is never voting for ak
it was a little harsh
but i think it broke their game trust
but ye i think our play is to potentially vote cass then make something happen with carlee next vote. but carlee is smart and she will know its cass most likely
idk if she wants to put herself in a worse spot
cause she would 100% get targeted at 7
and there would be nothing we could do to stop it
@Ricci [S1; S2] carlee just asked me what i heard
@ric5311
like ale said if ak goes to the end with a pear that ale is never voting for ak
LMAO, okay well AK doesn’t usually respond well to threats so let’s see if that changes his thought process at all. I do think AK probably believes he would win against Dallas/Missouri
@lukey8772
yeahhh
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] carlee just asked me what i heard
I would just tell her that Dallas is pushing for her but that’s not what you or I want to do 🤷♂️ feel free to leave me out of that if you wNt
@lukey8772
i just told her
it was dallas idea
i am gonna see if she would be open to any other ideas
@ric5311
Okay good, I think whatever AK says this round will probably greatly influence what our plan should be this round
@lukey8772
yeah
right now carlee wants me to talk to ale
i think its possible that carlee is gonna push dallas here again
i guess itll depend on what ak wants to do i wonder if cass even votes here
but either way, i think we vote cass cause its very possible ale and cass cant vote
dallas is taking 1k bells and cass spent 2k for no reason
@ric5311
I agree ale probably won’t be able to vote cause they will need 1850 total by 9 pm tonight. Cass on the other hand i’m more cautious of - I spent basically all my bells and was left with only 300 but i’m gonna have enough to vote tonight thru my commands
@lukey8772
your doing rocks only right?
@ric5311
Yup
@lukey8772
if you get wasped this is probably bad
okay good
@ric5311
Yeah no we’re good, i’m at 800 now and my cooldown ends in 3 hours
I’ll have enough to vote easily
@lukey8772
okay cool
i have 1k bells
@ric5311
then it goes down to 275 after this so we’re never having problems again
@lukey8772
yeah i know
that is another reason i wanted pete
but im just wacking rocks
btw if we catch wind of anything sus would you be willing to pass me the shovel here?
because idk how carlee is going to react to this or if those 3 will try to flip it on me
@Ricci [S1; S2] ak does not want cass to go either
we might just have to snipe dallas now to keep ak with us
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] ak does not want cass to go either
Hmmm that’s frustrating
I guess i’m slightly worried that if we took out Dallas too soon it would result in AK flipping back to that other side and then we lose 4v3
And we know for a fact that Dallas already lost F7 immunity because of Resetti’s
but we can talk about it more today, if that’s the only option then we gotta do what we gotta do to make sure it doesn’t flip onto you
@lukey8772
the only way it flips onto me is if these people snake me and at that point they get picked off by dallas anyways
and ik its a huge risk but
i really think that if we dont do something here and take cass out, if carlee wins f7 then we are turning on ourselves anyways
@ric5311
Yeah, they have a ladder stored somewhere on their side still along with ale’s golden shovel and now whatever this information is. Ideally if we flush all of those things and don’t have to play anything on our side - we can take out Dallas now and still feel pretty comfortable that we can win at 7 without him
If we took out Cass now, we could take out Dallas at 7 - but that runs the risk of losing both AK and Missouri
I just don’t know if those two would ever be able to reconnect with Ale/Carlee
@lukey8772
and then we are isolated at 6
the problem is
i think the end game is tricky no matter what we do
cause if you keep dallas here they might just go for you at 7. if you take dallas out here then the game breaks open and the apples are the 3 in the spotlight again
@ric5311
Yeah you’re right
Ah fuck it i’m down
@lukey8772
like i believe that cass is eventually going to want ale out she told me that she cant beat him
im just trying to include you
like they dont know you are on board except for ak
so you might have to slowly break the ice with ale carlee and cass
@ric5311
Okay that makes sense
I have been talking to Carlee a ton more recently
Cass we’re hot and cold
@lukey8772
yeah she is super social
i like carlee a lot
@ric5311
I gotta run into a meeting real quick but i’ll be back soon
I like her too but I can’t lose to her
she’s too good
@lukey8772
no worries we got this though
yes thats exactly how i feel
dw we are on the same page
@ric5311
Ok checking in real quick in the middle of this meeting, AK is bringing up both Dallas and Carlee’s name with me so he trusts me
I told him I want us 3 to be the ones making the final call
@lukey8772
yes and he is fine with us making that final call
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] i dont think dallas ever bought the shovel you told him to last round, right? 💀 cause he had 4 items and only had to discard 1
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] i dont think dallas ever bought the shovel you told him to...
No it wasn’t a shovel it was the ladder that we had him buy, he played it against Riley last tribal
@lukey8772
ohhhhhhhhhh
me when idk what we have bought this season LOL
😭 1
also how are you feeling?
@ric5311
I’m racking my brain honestly
I haven’t thought all too much about the vote
But I lean voting Dallas rn
How about you?
The one thing that keeps holding me back from diving all the way in on the Dallas plan is that I know he is absolutely horrible socially
Like we crush his ass at FTC and we know everything about him and how he’s moving
@lukey8772
yeah i agree with you on your reasonings for keeping dallas
i think the strongest case is though, they will 100% break the pears up next vote if all 3 of you are here. and like not just that, lets say we did blindside cass. we burn AK too at this point. yes we would have a 4-3 majority but then theyre working with dallas and missouri and targeting us.
at least right now, we cut dallas, missouri probably sticks with us and if he doesnt we cna grab ak for another vote just to ensure that we dont get cherry swept
cause i know a risk of this vote is missouri feeling he has to flip
@ric5311
i think the strongest case is though, they will 100% break the pears up next vot...
Should we do Carlee this round and then get Dallas/Missouri next round then? If we don’t blindside Cass we can keep AK on our side and then snipe Dallas or Missouri at 7 if that keeps him happy
I don’t mind if “pear must go” is the sentiment at 7 as long as it’s not me
But if people are worried i’m too close with Dallas/Missouri then yeah let’s just kill em
@lukey8772
people think yall are a trio and like im trying to protect you by saying lets just get rid of dallas now. cause then the game becomes this dynamic of okay there is a trio of ale carlee and cass. everyone else would be seen as floating
but if carlee or cass go here then the opposite is true where theyre floating and yall are the trio to beat
@ric5311
But you and me know that we would flip on Dallas/Missouri easily at 7 whereas those people don’t. So should we kill Carlee now and then just put it on Dallas the round after?
If the narrative is about this trio then they’ll need you to vote one of us out
@lukey8772
thats true
@ric5311
I just think that on the flip side, AK probably has just about a 50/50 shot at flipping on us if we take out Dallas now and give them 3v3 swing spot again
Especially considering they may feel confident enough that we are going for Dallas and then not play their golden shovel or ladder tonight
In which case we’d be fucked at 7
@lukey8772
we would have to go for cass or ale
like i agree with what you are saying
i do see the risks of this
@ric5311
Going for Cass or Ale just burns AK anyways though right? We would have to go for Carlee, then throw Dallas utb at 7
@lukey8772
ak doesnt want any of them out
he wants it to be dallas
@ric5311
Damn really? He seemed open to Carlee or Dallas with me and just wanted us to choose
@lukey8772
unless he dont trust me
@ric5311
This plan just scares the shit out of me
@lukey8772
i can ask though
@ric5311
Cause we know that id flip on Dallas/Missouri at 7
I really don’t know if Carlee Ale Cass ever flip on each other
@lukey8772
well
here is my issue. ale and carlee 100% target me if dallas stays.
like i really dont care either way who stays or goes
but i would need yall to keep me around at 7
and i feel like you would have to win out if we keep dallas atp
@ric5311
Well Dallas is guaranteed to lose F7 immunity with Resetti’s
so he’s available
@lukey8772
yes but they wont go for him a third time 💀
@ric5311
and if Me Dallas and Missouri are still in the game at 7 they’ll target one of us no?
Oh i see
@lukey8772
this is literally the second time we are having them vote dallas in a row
there is one out
ak wants to split the vote at some point.
@ric5311
Well, Beyond that I feel way more confident that Dallas/Missouri would stick with us to vote off the other side and allow us to be the ones to flip on them. Compared to the alternative being that we would need one of Cass Ale Carlee to turn on each other at 7 which I don’t believe they’d do
@lukey8772
cause he thinks yall have the idol
@ric5311
The more I think about it the worse I think it is to let go of Dallas/Missouri rn, they’re aloof socially and will always pick us over them
Fuck it let’s split between Me and then either Dallas or Missouri next round!! I’ll shovel and then they go home instead
@lukey8772
wait whta
im talking about this vote
ak wants to split here
@ric5311
He wants to split on Dallas and I?
@lukey8772
you are immune 😭
@ric5311
ong
omg^
Dawg I was so confused lmao
@lukey8772
it would be missouri as the other name LOL
im bad at explaining sorry
@ric5311
No you’re okay i’m dumb for thinking im an option when immune lmao
That scares me even more honestly
@lukey8772
yeah
@ric5311
the main thing I keep going back to
If it’s narrative warfare at 7 and whichever “trio” stays in will be targeted
we have control to blow up my trioo
@lukey8772
thats true
@ric5311
we have no control to blow up carlee ale cass
@lukey8772
but keep in mind
if i vote cass here im gonna be pissing everyone off. i put myself in that spot but i do agree
this is what i think we do
ill have ak get them to split
give me the shovel ill give it to dallas.
wait
@ric5311
nah
@lukey8772
no that wouldnt work hmm
@ric5311
bad idea i’m ngl
@lukey8772
yea i cant math
@ric5311
we shouldn’t burn it on him when we prob need it at 7
@lukey8772
yeah i think im just gonna have to decide here
@ric5311
yup
@lukey8772
but uh i do think
dallas is not gonna be happy either way
do you think it would be possible to frame ak? 💀
@ric5311
In theory, if we cut Carlee here and stuck with Dallas/missouri, they will have no idea there was even a possibility at treachery. At 7 we convince them that we’re gonna snipe the middle and get rid of AK now, then even if AK/Cass/Ale come together to try to snipe me cause they don’t wanna vote for Dallas 3 times in a row, i’ll shovel and then we kill Dallas ourselves at 7 and get all the credit
Sorry that wasn’t answering your question 😭😭
@lukey8772
hmm
okay and if you win immunity just pass me the shovel at 7?
@ric5311
Yep exactly
@lukey8772
alright
@ric5311
We know Dallas auto loses F7 immunity
Missouri… erm… has no chance
no shade
You could even vaulting pole at 7 if you wanted to
@lukey8772
yeah it is what it is
okay
who we voting then
this game is about to get so messy lmao
lets also use the fuck snubbs alliance
@ric5311
I think Carlee is the move to make that plan work
I guess we would need AK though
@lukey8772
yeah i cant use anything atp
or theyre all gonna know
or
hmm
i could use the axe
@ric5311
I was gonna say
If you use it
it may cause Ale to burn golden ahovel
could be genius
@lukey8772
yeah
@ric5311
but up to you ultimately
I know this is a tough ass vote and it may cause us to want as many advantages as possible moving forwards
So I don’t blame you if you don’t wanna use it now
@lukey8772
which we no longer have lol
no shop
but
i wish missouri had something
@ric5311
I have a feeling there’s gonna be more items popping up after this round
idk how
maybe that’s the info carlee got
@lukey8772
oh
true
has missouri even been online
@ric5311
nope not once today lmao
Hasn’t even been in my 1-1’s for 3 days lmfao
@lukey8772
that is my other fear
is if
@ric5311
Another reason why I think we gotta keep these two happy 😭😭 Like it’s almost a free pass to the end playing with them
@lukey8772
missouri doesnt vote
@ric5311
Yeah if he doesn’t vote we gotta flip
But my god
that would be dumb
just quit at that point
@lukey8772
yeah
btw
AK just asked them to split
i had no say in that
@ric5311
fair nuff
I don’t know why they’d split but oh well
I guess that means key idol really wasn’t found then?
@lukey8772
ak is worried yall have the idol
@ric5311
If they think we have it lol
@lukey8772
ye
@ric5311
If he followed the thought process for just a couple more steps he would know that Dallas and Missouri aren’t online even close to enough to have found that idol 💀💀
@lukey8772
LMFAO
thats what im saying
@ric5311
That’s fine though, split vote doesn’t affect our plans at all
Do you think AK can come around to voting Carlee?
We can just straight up promise it’s Dallas/Missouri next if you want
@lukey8772
he literally just presented the split plan idea
@ric5311
idk how he’d respond to that
@lukey8772
i dont think hes budging
just keep me updated cause ak could sink the dallas idea
im pretty sure theyre gonna get scared now cause ak wants to split
@ric5311
Good chance
I think I should make my case to AK
No reason why he can’t know my full gameplan for F8/7 at the moment
@lukey8772
thats fine
let me know what ak says
@ric5311
sounds good, sent it around 20 mins ago and nothin yet
@lukey8772
i think hes offline
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] you around?
@ric5311
Yup i’m here
@lukey8772
so im kinda curious but if they split which they are talking about doing still... just the others are busy at school i think? in theory it would be 3-3-2 right? if they split wouldnt we just win the vote without items?
@ric5311
Well if we didn’t have AK and they split 2-2 on Dallas/Missouri, it could be 4-2-2 if fucksnubbs chat all voted out Carlee
I think i’m reading that right
@lukey8772
also
missouri uh
doesnt want to vote carlee 🙃
i dont understand this game lol
@ric5311
He’s dumb lmfao
I’m talking to him now
i’ll fix that
@lukey8772
but it is really speaking to her social game
alright
@ric5311
Damn yeah Missouri is making a case for her
I think since i’m immune i’m free to push harder with him
@lukey8772
🙃
well if anything
@ric5311
Why is she so good at this game lmao
@lukey8772
this is convincing me carlee is VERY DANGEROUS
brother, her social game is on another level
like you see why no one has been able to get her out
@ric5311
I’ve had lovely personal convos with her since we’ve started talking more a couple days ago
only makes me want her out more though i’m ngl 😭
@lukey8772
fair
@ric5311
We would need all of AK Missouri and Dallas to agree for this to work though right
@lukey8772
but ye if you cant convince missouri dallas is kinda cooked
yes
@ric5311
yep
Missouri did crack quickly
@lukey8772
or at least missouri and dallas
@ric5311
I sent a couple paragraphs and he said “ah yeah I see your logic, if it’s a no go I get it - I just want to play devils advocate”
@lukey8772
who was he trying to pitch lol
@ric5311
Cass or Ale
I said erm
@lukey8772
i literally told him ale has a golden shovel
@ric5311
Ale shovel, Cass won’t be good for AK this round sorry
He said he was scared AK would have too strong of a middle spot
so I said easy, we get AK next
@lukey8772
the problem is
AK has advantages
@ric5311
only stone axe right?
@lukey8772
so pissing him off makes no sense and hes so paranoid i cant use my axe to help yall or he will play something
no he has a ladder too
@ric5311
Oh damn okay
@lukey8772
but keep that here lol
@ric5311
Do we convince him they got scared of his split plan and wanna turn it on him?
@lukey8772
you arent supposed to know about the split
but
i can try
@ric5311
true
@lukey8772
it will more than likely blow up on me
cause ak is so paranoid
i think the best way out of this situation
is the shovel
but
its your call
i will give it to dallas cause rn im convincing them not to split
@ric5311
I just despise the idea of giving Dallas a shovel when we want to blindside him next round and we could very well need it
But i’m not opposed if that’s our only shot
@lukey8772
thats true but if dallas is THAT DUMB to horde it
then there was nothing we couldve done to save him anyways
@ric5311
I would almost just rather let him go than use the shovel on him
@lukey8772
yeah alright
@ric5311
But that’s less optimal for us moving forward I think
@lukey8772
it is
if ak isnt so flip floppy
like this wouldve been perfect if he was fine with cass
@ric5311
So if we can’t get AK on Carlee then that’s basically our only option
like this wouldve been perfect if he was fine with cass
Yeah
Or we convince the other side to actually split
@lukey8772
yeah
@ric5311
and then we come over the top and get Carlee without AK
@lukey8772
do you think
if they split
AK would be better to target? takes out the freaking middle flip flopper and then we have 4 they have no stone axe or ladder just one golden shovel. 🤷♂️
if you think its dumb i get it
but im getting tired of this vote already
@ric5311
Holy shit wait
I think you nailed it
Let me think
that might be it though
@lukey8772
i just cant axe here or he is gonna get paranoid
@ric5311
What would he theoretically do if you axe’d ale and then we put 5 votes on AK?
Not saying you ahould
but I just wanna talk it out
how would he respond then
Play stone axe on one of us?
@lukey8772
stone axe + ladder to save carlee
so it would be 5-4 our favor
then 4-4 with axe
then whoever got axed gets to revote
@ric5311
So then should we convince AK that we’re just down to split on Dallas/Missouri? Let him be on the beta of a split and then it could be 4-3-1
@lukey8772
i think thats option 2
but id rather vote AK cause he is playing the middle and it gives me a story to sell the others
also we would have to be careful of carlee and dallas connecting
if missouri likes her its kinda bad
wait
what if
@ric5311
I think they’d just want to go for Ale or Cass at 7 if we got AK out now
@lukey8772
you guys sold ak down a waterfall
and i act surprised LMAO
i mean it would suck
but like
it is another option
@ric5311
We would still have to figure out how to actually get the votes on AK though
Cause right now it sounds like it’ll be 4-4 we vote AK, they vote Dallas
@lukey8772
flip the other 3?
@ric5311
Would they??
@lukey8772
that would be the other option
cause here is the scoop
AK is pushing the split vote plan to them
im saying it sucks
i think we could feed their paranoia
that ak is plotting
cause realistically
it would be 3-3-2
if one person flipped
4-2-2
maybe say ak came to yall with another plan?
could work idk
@ric5311
I can do that, I would approach Carlee/Cass and say that AK told me that his plan is to get them to split their votes between Missouri/Dallas, and then we all come over the top to vote out Carlee
Runs the risk that if she doesn’t trust me and runs that back to AK… it’s over
like it’s all over lmao
@lukey8772
do you want me to do that then
@ric5311
You def can, it would still run the same risk though
@lukey8772
you think so?
@ric5311
If she thinks AK is being more truthful than we are, then we lose
So it definitely backs us into a corner of that being our only out if we sell out AK
And then if we pivot and take out Dallas cause our plans blow up then we just look like rats
@lukey8772
ohhh
@ric5311
Oh AK just responded to my Carlee pitch as well
@lukey8772
AK is so confused that you know the vote is carlee and im like look at the alliance...
@ric5311
Yeah is he dumb? 💀
@lukey8772
these people have me feeling something
and it makes me sad
@ric5311
Just makes me want to vote AK even more
He’s never been able to listen to reason this entire game lmao
@lukey8772
oh i know
🙃
this vote has me feeling a certain way
like why did ak flip if he was gonna flip back ughhhh
also
wait ricci
are we dumb
why are we not giving dallas the shovel? we have been assuming they have 5 votes... if dallas shovels then its 3-3 but i vote with yall 4-3
and if they split, then its like
we win even more and ak is at fault
are you and ak fighting? 💀
@ric5311
We’re not fighting but he said “wow this is a lot, wouldn’t it still be 4-3?”
So I said, I really don’t know if Missouri would 100% still be with us if we blindsided him here
and I don’t want to give Dallas the shovel if we vote for Carlee because then AK still has his advantages to flip on us next round and we wouldn’t have the shovel for ourselves anymore
I guess I don’t mind giving it to him if we vote AK? Cause then all 4 of us just stay together and pick off the trio
But I still think it’s smarter to save that shovel for one of us than give it to someone we kinda want out
Did AK say he was fighting with me over this? 😭😭
@lukey8772
no i was wondering genuinely
@ric5311
Oh okay thank god
No it’s very casual chat
@lukey8772
also
@ric5311
He seems to not understand what i’m saying though
@lukey8772
yeah he doesnt get your point of view
@ric5311
so I thought he ran that back to you and said I was being argumentative lmfao
Well he should try reading again idk what to tell him
@lukey8772
fair
i think you and AK are kind of on two different planets
why he even voted riley idk
@ric5311
AK should’ve never flipped to us then, I don’t get it
@lukey8772
thats what im saying
like it feels
he just wants to ride middle
@ric5311
I think we just wait for him to go to bed and then leak
@lukey8772
and that pisses me off
yea
@ric5311
Okay, i’m down
If we think of any other hurdles between now and then we will discuss
@lukey8772
so we are voting AK?
do i need to use the axe? and ill let you know what they decide about splitting
@ric5311
I think voting AK is best plan rn, Axe is really up to you but I do think it holds the benefit of Ale maybe flushing his golden shovel, and I don’t think AK is thinking hard enough to pre-play something on the condition that you bust out your axe
But we also may need it down the line
Maybe Ale just plays the shovel no matter what
@lukey8772
i think we might need the axe at 6
but i think
if you approach one of them and are like AK said this to me earlier and mentioned the split that they'll blame ak
cause ak told me he is gonna ask cass carlee and ale individually too
also how much do missouri and dallas know about the ak vote rn
@ric5311
I sent a small 1-1 to missouri just asking how he’d feel about sniping AK right now so he didn’t have a chance to flip back
Missouri seemed ecstatic
@lukey8772
thats great
@lukey8772
are you talking to dallas?
@ric5311
I just dm’d him 1-1 after I saw that in the chat
I had only mentioned AK plan to missouri at the time
@lukey8772
ahh ok
@ric5311
so he wasn’t technically lying by saying he hasn’t heard of any changes lmao
that’s my bad for not hitting him fast enough lol
Dallas said he’s good with AK
voting*
@lukey8772
nice i just woke up i fell asleep
@Ricci [S1; S2] why is ak paranoid in my 1 on 1s 😭
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] why is ak paranoid in my 1 on 1s 😭
god what’s he worried about now lmao
@lukey8772
i literally woke up
and he is like paranoid
im like whats wrong
and he said he is just worried
????
@ric5311
“IIIIIIDK OMG this is a hard decision”
that’s the last thing he said to me
@lukey8772
when was that cause he also asked me who i was voting and im thinking to myself make your own decision 😭
@ric5311
4:09 est
@lukey8772
ok he reached out to me first then
@ric5311
I think we just tell him to vote Carlee
Cause then if we leak AK’s shit to the other side, even if they still vote Dallas it’s 4-3-1
hopefully lol
@lukey8772
he told me he was still on dallas but you can try
@ric5311
Damn I don’t think I have any sway with him
@lukey8772
idts either
cause he is like really scared rn
@ric5311
I laid out my reasoning, he pushed back and said we would still be 4v3 with Missouri, I told him Missouri will probably ditch us if we blindside him and then he said that at 4:09
So I don’t think he’s listening to me at all
@lukey8772
thats frustrating
@ric5311
I sent another push
we’ll see what happens
I don’t mind since i’m immune
But I doubt he’s gonna listen
and if he runs this back to any of cass ale carlee then we’re not gonna have any luck getting them to flip on him when he’s offline
@lukey8772
yeah i agree idk he said no one is talking to him
he isnt telling me anything you said just that you keep sending paragraphs
@ric5311
Does he want me to talk like a child? i’m confused
@lukey8772
wym
@ric5311
I’m sending him multiple sentences because i’m trying to talk to him about the vote, he just keeps complaining that it’s a lot and i’m sending paragraphs 💀
@lukey8772
idk dude ak is freaking out i cant keep doing this bullshit every vote with him
@ric5311
Im ready for him to go
@lukey8772
now he thinks its him and he is like "if i go here im just gonna accept it" im like ???
im gonna be around but like this is messy
@ric5311
He loves to do that every round i’m crying 😭
It’s time for it to be him fr im tired
@lukey8772
i wouldnt be surprised if like ak isnt leaking everything to the apples rn like we might be in a 4v4 which is absolutely crazy
i think they might be plotting their own 4-3-1 on me because none of them are talking to me now. im not trying to be paranoid, but its weird how quick shit hits the fan.
@ric5311
I think it might be smart to use your axe to block Ale and try to draw out the shovel play potentially then. I do think that the cass ale carlee trio has been offline for a minute now, I could be wrong but they may actually just not be around currently
@lukey8772
okay stop talking to ak
im fucking fuming rn
@ric5311
Yeah I haven’t said shit to him since what I told you about
what’s he doing?
@lukey8772
gimme 5 to figure it out
okay so
ak pinned your entire conversation on me.
and now im talking to ale
@ric5311
He’s a dumbass
Does he not think I can think for myself?
@lukey8772
ale does not want ak in much longer past this vote
cause this shit is just spiraling
but theyre all voting dallas cause ak is freaking out too much
@ric5311
I think we gotta find a way to snipe AK still
he’ll fuck us over if Dallas goes here
@lukey8772
yep
idk what i do other than use the axe or you give dallas the shovel
@ric5311
Yeah we gotta use one of em
@lukey8772
im sorry dude but ak is so bad at this game
@ric5311
He’s genuinely terrible
I don’t understand anything he’s done since the Emp vote
@lukey8772
i think the move is
to shovel dallas. ill tell them that i just had it with ak after the vote. but this is so fucking dumb
if for some reason it does tie on me, i guess we will go to rocks 💀
but ale told me that he wants dallas gone rn
so whenever dallas is around
just lemme know
@ric5311
Would you rather axe just in case the vote is on you instead? I’m fine with giving up the shovel to dallas in this scenario though
AK won’t be in to retaliate
on*
@lukey8772
lemme think on it
cause i have to pre play this stupid thing
@ric5311
yeah you’re good no worries take you’re time
@lukey8772
id have to take ale's vote i think
incase cass doesnt vote
hmm okay
4-4
ladder - 5-4
stone axe - 5-3
vote steal - 4-4
revote: ale carlee vs garrett garrett ricci missouri
final revote count - 4-2
scenario b revote - ale carlee vs ricci missouri dallas
final revote count 3-2
ladder - 5-4
stone axe - 5-3
vote steal - 4-4
revote: ale carlee vs garrett garrett ricci missouri
final revote count - 4-2
scenario b revote - ale carlee vs ricci missouri dallas
final revote count 3-2
does that look right?
@Ricci [S1; S2]
@ric5311
That does look good to me, the only other thing I was gonna suggest was stealing someone other than Ale’s vote because we can’t be sure they have enough bells to vote along with the extortion. I agree that idk what Cass is gonna do since she didn’t play at the auction, I feel like Carlee is the safest vote to steal but idk if you’d feel comfortable with that
Or just stealing AK’s and praying he’s offline lol
@lukey8772
i cant steal ak because the revote would tie
if they voted me
@ric5311
Yeah you’re right
@lukey8772
dallas is voting AK right?
@ric5311
yes
@lukey8772
alright
@lukey8772
okay anyways
today has been something 💀
hopefully tomorrow is better
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] i just used the axe on carlee. im really sorry for how today turned out. i was trying to keep you informed as much as possible though but ak put me in a position where i was stuck and then sold me down a river. hopefully we are still good 😔
@ric5311
Oh we’re 100% still good man don’t stress it at all
Till the wheels fall off mate
I think we’re gonna be good at this vote
@lukey8772
i hope so
@ric5311
So do you want to keep this vote from ale/cass/carlee then? It runs the risk of them playing vote advantages but it comes with the benefit of maybe getting ale to flush that golden shovel
@lukey8772
i am not saying anything to anyone
ale already told me he wants dallas here
so like even if i did mention it, it would piss dallas and missouri off
and im already preparing for ale to tell me im an ftc goat
so like 🤷♂️
also dallas probably wins f6 immunity which is gonna be a rough round for us but atp its whatever
anyways
lets just get through this vote
@ric5311
Yeah we can gameplan a bit more after this. I think we can snow Dallas/Missouri into not flipping on us and we can just goat Missouri to ftc on the premise that the trio smokes any of them at FTC
But yes let’s get thru tonight and then we’ll evaluate
I do think this is the best move for us long-term
@lukey8772
oh i think they know that already
@ric5311
I will be gone for the actual vote reveal but I have my vote locked in already
@lukey8772
alright
@ric5311
do you know if ak is offline yet lmao
all votes are in
@lukey8772
no i dont
@ric5311
I just won’t react to the message
tribal can be timely lol
ah there’s 4 votes idk if we’ll be able to hold it
@lukey8772
idts either
its only midnight for ak too
@ric5311
Well i’m off to a movie now so let’s pray for the best and we will start to gameplan once I get back tonight
@lukey8772
okay
@ric5311
LMAO
@lukey8772
well she wasted that too
@ric5311
we got em lol
this is hilarious
@lukey8772
i feel horrible
@ric5311
oh shit
AK on
okay just a ladder I hope
We’re still good right?
@lukey8772
yees
@ric5311
lmao dallas so funny
@lukey8772
is that real
@ric5311
idk tbh
oh shit
do they know our plan
@lukey8772
not that ik of
@ric5311
wow we got outplayed
I didn’t leak, maybe dallas or missouri did? this could be fucked
@lukey8772
missouri intimidated them
@ric5311
dumbass
@lukey8772
well we are fucked now
😄
they didnt tell us a damn thing as usual
@ric5311
they’re dumb
dallas didn’t need to play it
missouri didn’t need to do that
@lukey8772
wait it ties
maybe
idk
@ric5311
Nah they have AK
it’s done for whoever they voted for
@lukey8772
yeah we lsoe 4-3
im pretty sure
@ric5311
Yep
@lukey8772
or 4-2
@ric5311
they prob voted him since they slingshotted him
alright at least it’s not you
This will be nearly impossible to rebound for us lmao
@lukey8772
yup
well actually
your shovel has to be used this round or we die
theres literally no other option
@ric5311
yeah definitely
I’m also gonna tell AK how awesome that was for Cassie
make him know it’s not his move
gotta do what we gotta do
@lukey8772
im not speaking to any of them rn
@ric5311
AK came to me first, I don’t plan on approaching anyone first after that
@lukey8772
ye
i dont really care what happens atp im just tired
@ric5311
Yep, we’re at a severe disadvantage we just gotta try to do anything to dig out of it
we’ll probably get played again since they’ve been together this whole time, but gotta try to fracture them any way we can
@lukey8772
yea
@lukey8772
idk we will figure it out
ak isnt mad i guess
idk why
so where does missouri stand on all this
@ric5311
I think Missouri is locked in with us especially since we didn’t turn on them at all
@lukey8772
alright
@ric5311
you’re slamming this immunity already holy shit 😭😭
@lukey8772
im pissed and when im pissed im determined
@ric5311
were you before me on your end?
cant tell if that was a glitch or i was sliw
@lukey8772
yee it gave me the checkmark but it shows me first too
@ric5311
ah okay I was slow then
@lukey8772
also the nice part is if they all get demoralized and one of us wins then we know who to shovel ig
cause i highly doubt any of them want missouri out im ngl
@ric5311
Yeah it would definitely be on one of us
so as long as we secure immunity im happy
@lukey8772
i agree
@ric5311
we know theres actually no more slingshots now
@lukey8772
yup
@ric5311
dumbass dallas man
cant believe it
why didnt he run it by us
we wouldve said we were good and didnt need it
@lukey8772
i know its crazy
we wouldve won
that vote
@ric5311
yep
its unbelievable
@lukey8772
and then he says vote up in air???
feels mean a bit
@ric5311
Yeah especially since it was a self inflicted wound. Part of me thinks he was saying that to help us in hopes it would make them turn faster on Cassie idk
@lukey8772
i doubt it
@ric5311
good morning partner
happy fishing today 💀
@lukey8772
you too
❤️ 1
@ric5311
😭😭😭
You’re making my ass work for it now LMAO
@lukey8772
tbf i told them i using it last night
❤️ 1
they just slept
@ric5311
yeah makes sense
@lukey8772
yee
@lukey8772
also since theres a break from fish for a few minutes, do you find it crazy how the majority is just... doing nothing? 💀
@ric5311
Its unbelievably insulting
@lukey8772
yeah like we need to get one of them out
its just gonna be boring otherwise
@ric5311
We’ve been two of the only fully committed people all season im not surprised
@lukey8772
fairs
@ric5311
Yeah best we can do is just shovel whoever doesnt win between us here
@lukey8772
alright
i appreciate it
@ric5311
Yeah of course man, no shot at either of us winning at this point if we lose one another 🫡
@lukey8772
truth
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] are you gonna be on all day to do this? if you wanna pass me the shovel ill just give you the challenge win here. theres no way im going to be able to do this all day. its very likely they'll vote me anyways cause carlee is stupid and reacted to the "ricci needs to lock in message"
cause we are the only two doing this anyways and i really cant stare at my screen all day 💀
@lukey8772
if not ill just continue the challenge ig
nvm we will just continue 😭
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] are you gonna be on all day to do this? if you wanna pass ...
yeah im gonna be on the rest of the day, no pressure though lil you dont gotta throw
missed that snapper cause I had to drive real wuick
but im here now
@lukey8772
ahh okay
yeah we will just continue then
@ric5311
okay you got it 😭😭
@lukey8772
i honestly gambled with that too i was only using my phone 😭
@ric5311
Ive had a few legendary’s pretyped but figured I would never get that lucky LMAO
Im giving up now so its all yours 💀💀
had fun fishin with ya brother
@lukey8772
😭
@ric5311
I hope were still alive after tomorrow
@lukey8772
i hope so too
@lukey8772
how are you doing?
@ric5311
I’m doing alright, mostly just talking the day off now lmao
It’s plaguing me that it’s a 50-50 decision between shoveling missouri and I
He’s just done nothing for us recently
I would rather at worst case scenario, you and I are still here and we just try something else at 6
@lukey8772
imma be honest. save yourself first dude.
@ric5311
That’s heavily where i’m leaning
@lukey8772
like assuming you didnt know about the golden rod dallas was using id always protect myself first
@ric5311
I had no idea that was happening
@lukey8772
if we lose missouri it is what it is but we can recover
@ric5311
apparently those two talked about it but I was left out
@lukey8772
💀
@ric5311
I would’ve told them they’re dumb as fuck and not to use it
We had the votes
@lukey8772
we had everything lined up
i will say
carlee and missouri connection kinda worries me? idk about you but like last vote really was something
@ric5311
Yeah, I suppose if we make it thru this round 3v3 then that’s something to worry about
@lukey8772
fair fair
@ric5311
Should we start by pitching her?
after immunity ends
@lukey8772
lets wait for now no one is even around
@ric5311
Yeah
@lukey8772
unless im being ghosted
idrk
@ric5311
I certainly am by everyone but Carlee lol
@lukey8772
see she hasnt said a thing to me today
did you reach out first
@ric5311
Yeah I did
@lukey8772
that explains it
i literally have been challenge only today
@ric5311
It was just one quick exchange but I was just saying hello and that I really didn’t want to go home
@lukey8772
fair
@ric5311
Yeah that was my plan but holy shit it’s evil
I could only do so long
stayed up until like 3 am last night and I was dead this morning
@lukey8772
tuesday are my freest day so it was really fortunate for me
but yeah i saw that and i was like oof that must be rough 3 am
@ric5311
Big brother feeds kept me going thru it
@lukey8772
hey thats fair
@ric5311
But yeah unfortunately I had a lil bit of work to do in the middle of the day and then that great white just totally sealed it 😭😭
It’s all good, we know we’re both here at 6. mission successful
@lukey8772
oh yeah that was the dumbest stroke of luck and yep we will just have to figure a way forward from 6
@ric5311
I’m pretty sure the only advantages left in the game are just my shovel, ale’s shovel, and whatever Carlee has
So if we somehow make it thru with Garrett we can just go to rocks lol
not garrett
missouri
christ
3 am
@lukey8772
im garrett 😂
1
dw i had a moment like that yesterday
@ric5311
You know it’s a pure mixup because missouri isn’t even on enough for me to talk to him 😭😭
@lukey8772
ik ik
if carlee has an advantage though idk what that means for us unfortunately cause its the last unknown variable
to us
dallas thought she got to know if it was f3 or f2
@ric5311
I don’t think it’s gonna be anything to do with the vote. Just “information” so i’m thinking like… worst case for us she learns of all the advantages in the game and then she knows I have the shovel… best case she knows whether it’s F2/F3 and then it doesn’t matter at all
@lukey8772
yeee
the former seems unfair though unless...
wait
is that how they knew dallas had something?
@ric5311
It’s possible they knew he still had it from when it was blocked a couple rounds back
@lukey8772
oh true
@ric5311
But idk if they put that together
@lukey8772
idk they couldve i mean they were in possession of the slingshot so maybe there is some description on the text we didnt see cause there were no slingshots at the auction
@lukey8772
heya
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] lemme know when you are around
@ric5311
@Ricci [S1; S2] lemme know when you are around
looks like I got a lot to read up on
just got out of a movie, driving back bow
now
@lukey8772
ok i can wait how long will you be?
@ric5311
like 5-10 more mins
@lukey8772
ok just ping when free
@caraage
#itcanwait ricci
dont org and drive
@ric5311
#itcanwait ricci
#itcantwait
💀 1
@Garrett [S2] i’m back home now
@lukey8772
@Garrett [S2] i’m back home now
okok have you seen what happened
@ric5311
okok have you seen what happened
yes I think i’ve basically seen everything
this is great
@lukey8772
well it would be but i wanted to ask how many gold slingshots were purchased
@ric5311
There’s no more in the game now
@lukey8772
cause we have only seen 1 gold and 1 regula-
@ric5311
Hmmmm okay I guess we can’t be 100% sure
@lukey8772
what about if they were purchased before hand
ye
@ric5311
But I think they’re all flushed
We could pass it around to be safe if you want
@lukey8772
its an option but
im not really sure how to word this but if i axe here that is great but i kind of think the axe is better for us next vote. cause you forgot about the stone axe that ak has
he got it at auction
@ric5311
ooh right I forgot about that
I can just shovel here, we can still make it 3v3 with the axe next round if they get missouri
oh but revote we lose
Yeah idk how we do this
@lukey8772
the stone axe doesnt work on revote
i already number crunched
@ric5311
Hit me
@lukey8772
we would win the revote 3-2
but lemme run through the math
@ric5311
I’m perfectly happy shoveling here, doesn’t matter if they get Missouri
how long is your axe good for?
@lukey8772
its good until 6
so here and next round
i think if they vote out missouri here and ak holds onto the thing we win 6 but we lose 5 and 4
@ric5311
Yeah that is the concern, and if you axe this round then AK probably uses his in retaliation
@lukey8772
yep
but like
if i axe here
its our best bet but like it would have to be played here
cause lets say he does stone axe
as long as there is no slingshot we win the revote
if there is a slingshot we just lose 💀
@ric5311
I’m like 99% sure all the slingshots are flushed now
I think that’s why they pretended like Riley had it so they could pull off that move last tribal
@lukey8772
that is true
we also need to know where missouri is at
cause im not axing for him to like screw this up again 💀
its either he trusts us or he doesnt
@ric5311
I think he does, especially if you tell him that you’d be willing to use it for this vote to make sure it’s not him
I don’t think there’s any part of him that can work with that side
@lukey8772
i agree
ill talk to him either tonight or tomorrow then
i will say the shovel kinda like will be interesting at 6 especially if one of us can win the f6 challenge too
it can be used at 6 right?
@ric5311
let me make sure but I believe so
there’s no specific round limit on it, but it has 4 tribals from when I got it
let me count
@lukey8772
alright
@ric5311
yep this and the next one
@lukey8772
okay cool
im gonna go sleep, but if anything happens lemme know
@lukey8772
good morning
@ric5311
good morning
nothing happened that i’m aware of but im scared to open this AK dm
@lukey8772
lol
ak is already paranoid just so you know
he is claiming its between you and him
and im like not today
@ric5311
LMAO I can’t
he loves it
so are we shoveling or axeing tonight
you tell me
@lukey8772
id rather keep the axe, but i also want to make sure we arent shooting ourselves in the foot.
it really depends on if ak burns his stone axe
@ric5311
yeah I mean AK publicly throwing out my name def makes me think it’s less likely to be me, but i’m not giving this shovel to missouri im ngl 😭😭
@lukey8772
yeah thats what im saying
but i genuinely think
if ak votes with them either way he is throwing the game. like i dont see a world in which he wins any scenario against cass or carlee. maybe ale
@ric5311
Yeah I think AK loses to all 3 of em
But I don’t think that’s enough for him to break through
@lukey8772
i know he was leaking everything i said to ale last round
which is so dumb considering ale told me that he wants ak out still lmao
but i cant really use that as i dont think ak would buy it atp
@ric5311
Yeah he should’ve been with us last round by that same logic
@lukey8772
idk hes been flip flopping every round
@ric5311
I think shovel now, axe next is probably best play. I think regardless of whether he flips back this round - the axe is always more important next round because we could potentially win at 6 as long as one of us has immunity and we steal the right persons vote
@lukey8772
i agree
@ric5311
Only concern is not using the axe couldddddd throw missouri off enough to flip on me??? but holy shit he’d be stupid - idk if I can be surprised by anything anymore though so it’s on the table
@lukey8772
plus i think if they had the slingshot theyre gonna use it here. not saying they do, so i can stir paranoia that im using it and it will let you shovel safer
if he flips on you i genuinely give up with this cast
@ric5311
Yup same here
@lukey8772
like theres only so much we can do
i think the more ak freaks out about me using the axe the better it is for us anyways
like we were talking and i casually brought up how i was using it here. im not gonna hammer the point but im gonna let it sit and he can psyche himself out i guess
@ric5311
his best gameplan he could come up with is using the axe on ale to try and make them flush their shovel, and completely icing out the opposition
Garrett….
What have we done
Why are the only ones left who can think
@lukey8772
idk dude i feel like cass and carlee are smarter than they let on too
but on our side its pretty scary
@ric5311
Oh for sure, I meant specifically our allies
@lukey8772
oh then yeah LOL
i told him that its risky because if they make that read which is very easy to do
then we lose the vote
@ric5311
Should I just lie and say my shovel expires now lmfao
I don’t wanna deal with the headache
@lukey8772
did you already say
it expired in 2 rounds
@ric5311
I’ll double check
@lukey8772
if so then so
ye do that first
@ric5311
nope I never shared when it expires
only with you
@lukey8772
ok then we are good cause missouri was busy yeesterday so we never talked in 1 on 1
@lukey8772
anyways i do think that if we survive here even if missouri is picked off by the other side, we have to then try to flip ak at 6 especially if he holds onto the stone axe which is good until f5
@lukey8772
ill be busy for a bit but ill be around when i can
@ric5311
I just mapped everything out and am making a big voice note so i’m about to info dump on you in a second
But no rush we got all day
@lukey8772
o
okay
ill listen to it when i can
@ric5311
I think i’ve found a flaw in my logic tho one sec
@lukey8772
ok
i have like 10 minutes but no rush
@ric5311
@Everest Hub Bot#0212
right. I have redone this voice note about three different times now, and it's all been like over three minutes, so I'm really hoping I get it right this time. Okay. Obviously, we got two decisions between what we do tonight, between the axe and the shovel. The axe plan, I think, is pretty straightforward. We know what happens in that scenario. We steal whoever's vote. AK probably rebuts by blocking a vote. it becomes 3-3, and then on the revote, we win 3-2 because your axe continues to work, whereas AK doesn't. Then we would go to final six with a shovel and individual immunity where, you know, you and me are probably the favorites again, just because we have been. Maybe I shouldn't be cocky, but I think that we would be the favorites to win immunity. So we could potentially get ourselves in the same spot that we're in now where, like, we know we can both make it through no matter what. That plan is okay. It's not the best. Really only gives us a 66% chance of figuring out what to happen, but at least we can, you know, walk into the next round with an advantage and immunity Now the real issues that I found with the plan were when I was looking at the shovel plan If the votes are on me then this works out perfectly because I use the shovel, AK will probably use that axe in response, and then it's 2-2. We go to a re-vote, and we win 2-1. So then if that were the scenario, we would go to final six with you, me, Missouri versus AK, Ale, and Carly. And that's 3-3 with the Axe and individual immunity. That's like our ideal scenario. That's pretty much the best possible case to happen. So I don't know. I mean, maybe that's a deterrent from them putting the votes on me. Who knows? Anyways, I'll move on to the actual issue that I saw with the plan, which is if they vote for Missouri instead, and I use the shovel and then AK doesn't burn his stone axe or whatever the axe is then we just lose 4-3 on this vote and we go to final 6 down 4 and then even if you use the ```All right. I have redone this voice note about three different times now, and...
a vote at final 6 if AK still has his block a vote he can just block one of our votes and then we lose three two at six so the only now if we uh you know that that pretty much poses two options for us then in my opinion we either just go with the axe plan which we know will save everybody this round and then bring us to final six just three three we have a shovel and a chance at individual immunity or what we can do instead, which is a bit riskier. But I think it could potentially draw out the best outcome for us if we get lucky is I just play my shovel first. And if AK doesn't use the block of vote, then we know, oh, shit, they voted for Missouri. We fucked this up. And then, you know, I mean, obviously, it's your choice at that point. But if I use my shovel and then AK doesn't block a vote in response, that means that we would go into that scenario where AK just blocks our vote at six and then we lose three to two. So if I use my shovel and AK doesn't respond, you could use your axe to steal one of their votes And then that way at least we tried the shovel plan first because I really do think that the scenario where I shovel we win the vote two to one and then we walk into final six three three with the axe and immunity that's our best option the second best option is just using the axe to make sure that all three of us are there and then we have final six three verse three if we were to just do the axe without the shovel then we would also have the shovel there at final six, but using the shovel and then AK responding by blocking a vote, we can then just sit on our hands and get our best case scenario. So I don't know. That's a lot of word salad. You tell me what you think about all this and we can continue to discuss what we think the best plan is. But basically, my tier of ideal outcomes is if I just use the shovel and AK blocks a vote, we win two to one and then we have the axe at final six and we're golden. If I use the shovel and AK does not bloc ```steal a vote at final 6 if AK still has his block a vote he can just block on...
a vote in response, that means we're about to get fucked and then AK will still have his block a vote for next round. So we may then have to pull something else out to get to our next best scenario. But up to you. Let me know what you think whenever you read this.There’s an extra mythical scenario that I didn’t discuss because it’s not very likely to happen…. but basically if I shovel, AK uses his axe…. and the vote is STILL Missouri and AK used the axe without needing to…. Then we head into F6 you/me v those 4, as long as we win immunity we can make the vote tie 3-3 with the axe and then 2-2 on revote and then we’re both immune and they draw rocks between themselves lol
So even if that’s unlikely to happen, that’s another reason why leading with the shovel and then deciding our next move based on AK’s response is probably the smart play for us
@lukey8772
So I think your logic is solid except my axe has to be pre played that's the caviat to this entire scenario
@ric5311
FUCK
Okay then we have two clear choices
Either axe and know it’s 3v3 next round with immunity + shovel
Or lead with the shovel and hope the vote is on me, cause if it’s on Missouri and AK is smart enough to hold his stone axe, then it’s actually game over for us
@ric5311
There’s still the hypothetical world in which the vote is on missouri, I shovel, and AK burns his axe for no reason and then we’re good at 6 as long as we win immunity. But that’s tough to just be banking on AK making a bad play
@lukey8772
If we could trust Missouri like this vote would be really simple
I would just pass him the axe but I don't trust him with advantages
Imma be real I think they, the 4, are voting you. Something about what ak told me about them voting you just doesn't sit right with me but I think he was double bluffing
@ric5311
I would just pass him the axe but I don't trust him with advantages
are you just worried about them slingshotting you?
@lukey8772
He wants us to think it's Missouri but if they vote out Missouri they throw the game honestly
Yes I think I they'd slingshot for sure here
@ric5311
That’s fair, I just don’t think they have one - obviously your call but I think if you gave it to missouri and pretty explicitly explained everything to him especially about pre-playing it…. he wouldn’t fuck it up in the end
@lukey8772
Alright I gotta drive I'll be right back
@ric5311
sounds good no worries
main situation I want to avoid is if I shovel, AK holds his stone axe, they vote out Missouri. Then we lose no matter what and have nothing else to dig ourselves out. They’d be silly to all go to the end as a happy family but that’s exactly what they’re doing nonetheless
@lukey8772
It's a tough situation cause we could just vote ak out
But if we lose the vote we lose the game
@ric5311
It would actually have to work though, the issue lies in losing the vote
yeah exactly
@lukey8772
And AK thinks it's him already
So like idk
@ric5311
axe = 3v3 at 6 with immunity + shovel
shovel = has to be votes on me or else we lose
shovel = has to be votes on me or else we lose
The only pitfall is that we would have to win immunity at 6 and then have a 50/50 at playing shovel correctly
@lukey8772
That's why I think the axe is strong next round
@ric5311
But only if we win the vote
@lukey8772
True
@ric5311
if we lose missouri here and keep the axe then we just go into 6 4v2 and AK holds his stone axe and we lose 3-2
how about this
If it makes you feel more comfortable with the move, i’ll give you the shovel at 6 and you can have it if neither of us are immune
if one of us wins immunity, we just play it on the other and we have a 50/50 chance at winning and then having majority at 5 and likely winning the game
If the other side wins immunity then we have a 33% chance of getting the vote right since they have ale’s shovel. But that’s why i’d be willing to give you the shovel so that you’re fine no matter what
If the other side wins immunity then we have a 33% chance of getting the vote ri...
50%*
wait
just ignore the last message
ale can’t pass their shovel
so if they win immunity then we would know who to vote cause we only have one option, i’ll still give you the shovel just in case anything goes wrong
@lukey8772
I can axe here if you really think that's the best course of action. I don't really care which of us has the shovel at 6 as long as it stays hidden
@ric5311
The way i’m seeing it right now, if we axe tonight then we have 3v3 with shovel + individual immunity and potentially up to a 50% chance to play the shovel correctly at 6 and take majority at 5.
If we shovel tonight and they don’t know I have it and actually put the votes on me, then we’re 3v3 with the axe and we completely dominate them for the rest of the game. BUT, the big pothole is that if they are smart and vote Missouri instead, we auto lose the game
If we shovel tonight and they don’t know I have it and actually put the votes on me, then we’re 3v3 with the axe and we completely dominate them for the rest of the game. BUT, the big pothole is that if they are smart and vote Missouri instead, we auto lose the game
So option A is the safest choice giving us the best average shot at success moving forwards, Option B has an extreme positive and extreme negative possible outcome
@lukey8772
That's fair I do see that
@ric5311
and yeah we can do whatever we want with the shovel, I just think it would be a good sign of faith to just let you have it since you’d be taking the risk with your axe here
@lukey8772
Alright then that's fine my only thing is do you want to pass me the shovel now Incase they blindsided you with it?
Cause if we are using the axe we could literally just trade advantages
@ric5311
Yeah for sure, i’ll ping producers and hand it off
@lukey8772
This way we have the element of surprise and if they slingshot it's definitely on me anyway
@ric5311
Okay I like that
@lukey8772
Cause I believe they forgot about Pete
Like 100%
@ric5311
Wonderful
@lukey8772
Who are we voting then cause if we trade advantages then I think it's smart to vote Cass or AK
@ric5311
Wait
before I answer that
if you give me the axe and they vote for me
and it goes to a revote
are we still fine
okay yeah we are, I still have whoever’s vote I steal
I think we should vote Cass still
AK will probably burn the block a vote once the axe is played
@lukey8772
Yeah I agree
@ric5311
so it’s less worth it to take him out considering he’s still not a great player
@lukey8772
Okay then let's snipe Cass
👍 1
@ric5311
i’m happy it’s staying on her lol I like my parchment I submitted already lmfao
@lukey8772
Alright I'm gonna send in my trade request now
Okay fio said it would be about an hour
@ric5311
he sent me a voice note and said it’s completed but he’s too busy to send the items right now
@lukey8772
Yep same
Well I think that was the smartest thing we could've done anyway cause I don't think they slingshot you
Yippee ty brother
@lukey8772
Oh also I would just say with the axe if ale doesn't vote here we can still lose the vote if ak uses the stone axe
@Ricci [S1; S2]
@ric5311
I should steal AK’s vote right?
@lukey8772
More than likely ye
Well or you could take Cass they wouldn't expect us to do that
@ric5311
Possibly
I don’t think they can pass that shovel anyways, but I am worried they will read us like a book after they caught that Carlee wouldn’t be the target since her vote was stolen, maybe they think we try to reverse it this round and actually use it on the target
@lukey8772
That's what I was thinking too
@lukey8772
Anyways let me know what you decide to do with it
Also I wouldn't tell anyone we switched items not even Missouri
@ric5311
Yeah i’m not going to, Missouri will probably just leak to the other side
Intentionally or not
@lukey8772
Alright ty
We got this 💪
@lukey8772
so whats up
@ric5311
Nothing yet on my end, just been working for the last few hours
@lukey8772
ah ok
im gonna try to get lunch here soon im hungry
@ric5311
me too! I actually have a semi busy day at work so thankfully this wait for tribal isn’t as taxing as the last few have been lmao
@lukey8772
well its weird cause like
theres less people now
and the sides are so clear
unless someone is doing something behind the scenes idk
cause none of them are talking to me
@ric5311
it’s a bit strange, i’m also not getting anything from that side. I think the only avenue they could be taking right now is looping missouri in to vote for me which I simply can’t believe is possible
They also did fuck all during the Riley boot so maybe they are just the type of players to sit on their hands when they know nothing can be done
@lukey8772
ak is claiming hes cooked cause we have 4 votes he doesnt feel missouri is with them
he is also giving me the idk whats happening speech
@ric5311
He’s just been straight up ignoring me so idk
That makes sense that they’d try to flip Missouri
I don’t think it’s a concern, if we axe AK and then still lose because Missouri voted for me… I didn’t want to stay alive anymore anyways
oh AK finally responded to me
said he’s been busy all day and hasn’t checked discord
pretty stupid to do that when he knows you and I talk huh
@lukey8772
he told me he hasnt been on discord
but i dont buy it
it just feels like a convenient excuse
i think one of two things are happening
either they have a slingshot and they just feel safe so us trading items was big brained
or... theyre flipping missouri
cause even missouri isnt talking to me
but ik he said he had school
but ak, the most paranoid person in the game said he hasnt heard anything and is pretty calm about it
just feels off
@ric5311
@Everest Hub Bot#0212
you.oops
@lukey8772
Huh
@ric5311
My vn fucked up
doing it again now
@lukey8772
Ooo
@ric5311
@Everest Hub Bot#0212
, so AK had just responded to me and we were pretty much just like, we were just going back and forth saying that we hadn't heard anything this round. And he had just responded to me and been like, yep, like crickets on my end. And I was like, yep, like me too. Like, pretty shitty that this game has ended up just being side warfare. And I didn't think that that was like a horrible comment to make, but I guess it pissed him off because he's trying to start a fight in my DMs now. uh saying that like it's lame that i'm saying it's his fault that the game is side warfare and that he tried to open up his game and he was rewarded with a bunch of votes against him which i'll say first of all he was rewarded with a bunch of votes against him because he was stubborn and wouldn't listen to us at all when we were trying to like actually reason with him uh but second off i'm just so tired of him he's i'm just venting at this point but he's so fucking annoying It's like for the last, I mean, for the last like four or five rounds, we've been dealing with this bullshit. Even when he's on our side, it's just, it so unfun to play with Like I do not understand why he continues to do this Anyways it doesn matter I mean I guess all we can really do with Missouri is just you know we'll check in with him whenever he gets back online. We can try to explain to him that, you know, he loses to everybody at the end on that side, and it would be terrible for him to flip over to their side. I don't know what kind of promises they would be making to him, but I would hope that he has enough sense to not flip to them. I mean, shit, like I said earlier, if they convince Missouri to flip and vote for me so that neither of our advantages matter, thank God I'm in the jury anyways. Like, there's nothing we can do at that point, but I don't know. I, like, because Cass and Ale would be the two people on that side, and like Carly too, I'm sure she's contributing to the strategy. I would expect t ```Okay, so AK had just responded to me and we were pretty much just like, we we...
to be the ones that are, like, actually forming a plan to try and counter whatever we have going on. So if they're truly not online and it's only AK on, I'm not surprised that this is what AK is just doing by himself. He's a terrible player and you know, he's just playing terribly again. So it is what it is.ak really said let me start another fight 💀
my thoughts are that they have a plan in place idk what that plan is, but im fairly sure in my gut it involves a slingshot. AK is so bad at this game. literally he has not panicked once today... he has said "guess im cooked oh well" just no paranoia no anything
also
ak knows he has an advantage that makes it 3v3 or if ale doesnt vote it would be 3v2... ultimately the axe comes with a very difficult read but i think if you get the read right then we are back in the game
so yeah ak is just lying non stop
@lukey8772
ok missouri will be on soon he just messaged me
@Ricci [S1; S2] do you think its smart to not tell missouri or will he get mad?
i think we have missouri here
@ric5311
I think we have him, probably smart to tell him
@lukey8772
okay
do we just mention it in the fuck snubbs thing
@ric5311
Yeah, I think you should first say that we should use axe and hold shovel for now… then let’s talk about it for a bit and then we can eventually land on swapping advantages to avoid a potential slingshot
Not to look shady but I just don’t want to bring the completed plan to him and then he feels some type of way that he wasn’t a part of it 😭😭
@lukey8772
ok
@ric5311
erm
lol
@lukey8772
here lemme fix it
@ric5311
idk I hope that was good lol
He mystically stopped talking 💀💀💀
@lukey8772
hes typing
this is a little insane
ngl
@ric5311
what is
@lukey8772
this game
lol
@ric5311
Yeah it is 💀💀 and jury is probably even worse lmao
@lukey8772
idk ive felt like ive been on a rollar coaster all game
god
i cant imagine snubbs + dallas jury
@ric5311
Ironically I feel like the premerge was like the easiest time i’ve ever had in a game - and then postmerge has been complete war. We’ve traded blindsides every round lmao
@lukey8772
it really has been crazy
@ric5311
does Missouri know about AK’s block a vote
@lukey8772
yes
@ric5311
because that’s the real reason why Ale may not vote
@lukey8772
i mentioned it at least 5 times
@ric5311
AK blocks, Ale doesn’t vote then it’s 3-2 we lose
@lukey8772
yea
@ric5311
https://klipy.com/gifs/brain-melt-brain-puddle
what if I tell Carlee she’s safe tonight
@lukey8772
ik im screaming
@lukey8772
ugh i just realized missouri's plan more than likely. so if cass goes here okay fine whatever. but one of us have to win at f6 100% the other person then has to shovel AND we have to eliminate carlee somehow. the longer carlee is in the game the more opportunity we are giving missouri to flip. i think he wants to go to the end with her for some stupid reason. the last spot probably goes to ak or ale. everything rn is pointing at a carlee win dude... @Ricci [S1; S2]
i hope im wrong though
but after you told me about the pushback on carlee i started thinking a bit
and he just shot my idea down too here
idk how we get out of this mess
@lukey8772
also ak is pissing me off
hes like "idk what i do... yall win on a tie and have 4 votes" "its looking like its me"
💀
but then he said " im not saying im going home"
????????
@ric5311
Dear god I just came back to an AK message and what he put in tribal chat
never a good sign
@lukey8772
lol
@ric5311
I do think Missouri thinks Carlee sucks at this game and is an easy beat
@lukey8772
good luck
i agree
@ric5311
Which I also thought at a point but then I woke up
so i’m not surprised if that’s actually his plan
@lukey8772
ive been saying this since colin went home lol
@ric5311
I think if we can manage to get to 5 before it happens we can avoid it
But that is very tough
@lukey8772
yeah
anyways good luck with ak
lemme know how it goes 💀
@ric5311
All he said was “I wanna find a path to move forward from here”
I did calm him down a bit and get him talking game
He said he feels like he’s in a terrible spot because he’s 4th with whoever he sides with
I told him I can’t bullshit him, he ain’t gonna be 1st but he won’t be 4th
@lukey8772
he told me that earlier but like
dang thats more straightforward than me
@ric5311
1st as in alliance structure not winning* need to make it clear I wasn’t just being rude lol
@lukey8772
ohhhh
his spot is pretty bad though
@ric5311
oh it’s terrible
If he would’ve stuck to us he could’ve been 3rd and we flipped on dallas/missouri with him and actually made some good moves
But yeah now he’s just being dragged along wherever he goes
@lukey8772
yeeeep basically
@ric5311
I made up half of that on the fly because the paper very heavily implied Missouri not being here in multiple scenarios LMFAO
but I also think my logic is relatively sound
@lukey8772
yeeeah i figured
i had it clocked dw
anyways i just offered some discussion points
@lukey8772
@Ricci [S1; S2] remember the axe has to be pre played
cant use it at tribal unfortunately
well you can if its pre played
okay i think we have a plan at least
let me know when you have used the axe and ill vote incase they do early tribal btw
@ric5311
I just played the axe, vote has been in for a while
I made a fun parchment
@lukey8772
alright good luck man hoping you and missouri survive this
ok my vote for cass is in
@lukey8772
ak is still awake he might be waiting to see what we do at tribal to decide if hes playing the item. which tells me the slingshot theory mightve been correct? just my guess
@ric5311
I suppose it’s possible, i’m not too sure what to expect tonight
it would be wild if they won even with us having the axe
@lukey8772
yee
we will see what happens soon
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